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Post by Scottish » Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:08 pm

Sat31March1928 wrote: As he put it he was the link between the carrier pigeon (which is what some newspapers used to send their Saturday reports in for the Saturday night 'pinks' n 'greens') and the internet.
Brilliant quote. Carrier pigeons were used for a lot longer than many people might suppose. Even in the 1920s when telephones were commonly used (by the press if not the general public) there were flocks of doos sent winging their way back to newspaper offices at full time.

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Post by LEATHERSTOCKING » Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:48 pm

llb states that the Old Firm have always been dominant in Scottish football. Not so; Queen`s Park, Vale of Leven, Dumbarton won all of the 1st 11 Scottish Cup Finals (7, 3 & 1) and Queen`s 10 of the 1st 20 plus reaching 2 English Cup finals. To list additional statistics of Queen`s domination of the Scottish scene until the advent of the Scottish League would be as boring as would be a list of the "Glasgow Giants" subsequent supremacy.

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Post by LEATHERSTOCKING » Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:50 pm

Is the pigeon love song,"Ah, don`t know why ah love ye like ah doo"?

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Post by Sat31March1928 » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:37 pm

LEATHERSTOCKING wrote:llb states that the Old Firm have always been dominant in Scottish football. Not so; Queen`s Park, Vale of Leven, Dumbarton won all of the 1st 11 Scottish Cup Finals (7, 3 & 1) and Queen`s 10 of the 1st 20 plus reaching 2 English Cup finals. To list additional statistics of Queen`s domination of the Scottish scene until the advent of the Scottish League would be as boring as would be a list of the "Glasgow Giants" subsequent supremacy.
In Fact Glasgow Rangers name is NOT on the Scottish Cup. :shock:
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Post by Scottish » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:43 pm

LEATHERSTOCKING wrote:Is the pigeon love song,"Ah, don`t know why ah love ye like ah doo"?
Was that by the Byrds? Or The Eagles?

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Post by lbb » Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:24 am

LEATHERSTOCKING wrote:llb states that the Old Firm have always been dominant in Scottish football. Not so; Queen`s Park, Vale of Leven, Dumbarton won all of the 1st 11 Scottish Cup Finals (7, 3 & 1) and Queen`s 10 of the 1st 20 plus reaching 2 English Cup finals. To list additional statistics of Queen`s domination of the Scottish scene until the advent of the Scottish League would be as boring as would be a list of the "Glasgow Giants" subsequent supremacy.
Okay, let me rephrase it to 'the Old Firm have almost always been dominant in Scottish football'.
Sat31March1928 wrote: In Fact Glasgow Rangers name is NOT on the Scottish Cup. :shock:
What do you mean? I assume it's something to do with the teams engraved on the cup itself and, as Rangers didn't win it until 1894, they were too late to be included on the original roll of honour, as it were.

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Post by Sat31March1928 » Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:36 pm

lbb wrote:.....

What do you mean? I assume it's something to do with the teams engraved on the cup itself and, as Rangers didn't win it until 1894, they were too late to be included on the original roll of honour, as it were.
Yes, there's only the first 19 winners on the Cup itself. Always a good one to discuss in the pub. I've got a photo somewhere.

I'll have a look.
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Post by StAndrewsHMFC » Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:46 pm

Sat31March1928 wrote:
lbb wrote:.....

Yes, there's only the first 19 winners on the Cup itself.
Queens Park, Vale of Leven, Dumbarton, Renton, Hibs, Hearts, 3rd Lanark?

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Post by Scottish » Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:05 pm

And Celtic

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Post by LEATHERSTOCKING » Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:40 pm

Yes, llb, dominent "almost always" but not at the game`s formative stages; that was ruled by others. Domination in any field is unhealthy and I doubt if anyone would deny that the Glasgow pair (can we please have a new shorthand for this double act after 104 years?) have ruined the game in Scotland. If Celtic hadn`t come along, Queen`s Park would, in all likelyhood, still be ruling the roost and, as a consequence, I`d probably be following the fortunes of some wee, Govan side struggling in the 2nd Division. It`s easy to hang on to the coat-tails of success.

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Post by LEATHERSTOCKING » Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:19 pm

Was the pidgeon love song not by Lieut.Pidgeon or was it Don Partridge? On the subject of silliness, Stephen Fry recalls how they would wittily `phone Jesus College of Christmas morning asking,"Is that Jesus?" then sing "Happy Birthday" down the `phone. The paper, pen and paper shop in Glasgow called Lyons were constantly plagued by callers asking if they were Lyon in Sauchiehall Street who then suggested they get up quickly because there was a tram coming. Tee hee.

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Post by LEATHERSTOCKING » Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:21 pm

Apologies for bad grammar there!

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Post by Scottish » Wed Apr 02, 2008 12:31 am

LEATHERSTOCKING wrote:Was the pidgeon love song not by Lieut.Pidgeon or was it Don Partridge?
Which pigeon song? Da DOO Ron Ron Da DOO Ron Ron?

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Post by LEATHERSTOCKING » Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:48 am

Doo wah diddy, diddy, dum, diddy, doo.

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Post by Scottish » Wed Apr 02, 2008 10:13 am

LEATHERSTOCKING wrote:Doo wah diddy, diddy, dum, diddy, doo.
Ah, the Sixties! When song lyrics MEANT something. How very different from today.

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