The SFA DO NOT own Hampden, you dont seem to want to acknowledge that point.scottish wrote:Yes, I used the Olympics as the perfect example of the SFA wanting to have their cake and eat it
No problem:Perhaps you'll be good enough to point out exactly where I made any such claim
It is surely rank hypocrisy for the SFA (& the FAW) to put forward their grounds
They are trying to stop young Scots from competing in 2012. In one sport and one sport only.
Using TV coverage (or lack of) from a Euro Championships 24 years ago is silly.Burnie_man wrote:25 years ago? c'mon......
What's the cut-off point for comparisons then? Obviously Barcelona 1992 is okay because you used it but Euro 1984 is not. So, sometime between those dates I guess. Let me know the exact year
Where was the outcry for a joint team 4 years ago? 8 years ago? 12 years ago, 16 years ago? 20 years ago? etc etc etc. If it is such a disgraces that our young Scottish footballers were not getting to compete, where was the outcry when Scotland actually qualified for Atlanta 96? There was none becuase nobody was interested
The point I was making, as you know, was the organising committee want these players to lend some validity to their under age tournament, and Messi and co. will have received nice enhancements to their sponsorship contracts (as will their advisors and agents).Enhance their profiles? Messi? Ronaldinho? For crying out loud Barcelona took the Argentine Olympic committee to court over Messi. As for the organising committee wanting top players to compete, what a nerve. Next thing you know every competition will be doing the same thing
Boxing fans take notice of the Olmpics, Cycling fans take notice of the Olympics, rowing fans take notice of the Olympics, athletics fans take notice of the Olympics because the events are top of the tree for their sports. Football is nowhere near.I was referring to yourstatement that "“a tournament which few football fans in the UK take any notice” was one reason for not taking part. But, okay, the Olympics is not the pinnacle for boxers or tennis players. You still haven't said if these sports should be allowed or whether it's just football at the games you don't like.
Where was the outcry in 1996? Did the Scotland U21 players come out and demand to play? eh no......FFS the SFA backed by the First Minister are trying to stop Scottish men and women from taking part in the Olympics.
Why were young Scots not allowed to take part in 1996?The "political stunt" is coming from those who seek to deny young Scots the chance to take part in the Olympic Games. Why should Scots not be allowed to take part?
Read my post again, we compete as individual nations at football as a favour from FIFA, anything that endangers that priviledge must be avoided. No kid in Scotland/Wales/N.Ireland/England aspires to play for GB at football in the Olympics, just another UK Government mantra "stopping young Scots", just like in 1996 then?Ah, so it's football only. Pure discrimination against young footballers
Are you serious? How many players can take part in both the African and South American competitions? I thought it was obvious that I meant the Olympics were third in importance with the World Cup coming first and the continental competitions coming next IN THEIR RESPECTIVE CONTINENTS.
In other words pretty insignificant behind the World Cup and Euro Champs (for a Euro player), I'd agree with that.Let me spell it out for you - it is the third most important international tournament any player can take part in.
I am comparing the Munich agreement to the assurance that Murphy received from an individual within FIFA who has been proven in court to be a serial liar.YOU are being hysterical, comparing the Munich agreement to the 2012 Olympic Games. BTW if governments kept their noses out entirely there would be no games in London in 2012.
No kid aspires to play football at the Olympics for GB, there was no outcry in 1996 and I dont recall any outcry when England have qualified in the past. Top football people advise against fielding a GB team, the only people who want it is Brown's Government.But I agree that government should interfere as little as possible. In the current instance if some people are determined to prevent young Scots from competing in one of the sports then I reckon there is an onus on government to ensure equality of treatment for all athletes. The last time any government in the UK tried to stop athletes from competing in the Olympics was Moscow 1980 (I know, it's beyond your arbitrary cut-off date for comparisons) and it was a spectacular failure.
Let's hope history repeats itself.
It's a political stunt, aided by the FA, and that's the bottom line.