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Post by Neiljb » Fri Nov 04, 2005 10:44 pm

The question is;

How are they paid?

Do they take a % off the signing on fee or do they also take a % of the players weekly wage?

No doubt some/all of them take a wee bung under the table like. I have heard of agents insisting that ther client remain out of the room during negotiations.
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Re: Player's Agents

Post by Scottish » Sun Nov 06, 2005 3:59 pm

Neiljb wrote:The question is;

How are they paid?

Do they take a % off the signing on fee or do they also take a % of the players weekly wage?
I believe the precise details of the contract includes it being signed in blood (preferably that of a virgin) and transfer of the player's soul and those of his immediate family for all eternity.

Or something like that

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Post by Neiljb » Sun Nov 06, 2005 6:46 pm

In other words, you don't know. Just like everybody else.

Why the mason-like secrecy?
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Post by Scottish » Sun Nov 06, 2005 7:06 pm

Who knows why? Like most people agents are not my favourite breed. But in many ways the clubs themselves are to blame for the rise of the agent. For decades they kept players under ridiculous contracts and tried everything they could to emasculate the Players Union. Now they're suffering as a result.

I've only ever spent one evening in the company of an agent and that was one too many as he spent most of it extolling the virtues of two players who were notoriously injury-prone, telling me how clsoe they were to full fitness and how they would both play for Scotland.

It was absolute rubbish of course

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Post by the hibLOG » Mon Nov 07, 2005 2:36 pm

Doesn't answer all the questions on how exactly they get paid, but this article indicates that there is more to agents' services than just negotiating contracts:

http://www.le.ac.uk/crss/sf-review/00-0 ... icle3.html

According to this they act as PR men, accountants, financial advisers, business managers, sponsorship brokers, personal life coaches and surrogate best mates, so I imagine they feel justified in charging retainers as well as cuts from contracts.
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Post by Jimmy Superscot » Fri Nov 11, 2005 11:49 am

the hibLOG wrote:Doesn't answer all the questions on how exactly they get paid, but this article indicates that there is more to agents' services than just negotiating contracts:

http://www.le.ac.uk/crss/sf-review/00-0 ... icle3.html

According to this they act as PR men, accountants, financial advisers, business managers, sponsorship brokers, personal life coaches and surrogate best mates, so I imagine they feel justified in charging retainers as well as cuts from contracts.
Not sure that this is how one particular agent would see his role. No names (but he represents a prolific young Scottish striker currently with a provincial club), but allegedly he appears to see his role as filling his pockets without really bothering about the best interests of his clients.

Problem is that you take a 19/20 year old with a limited education and he needs help. Thus there is a need for players to receive advice from people with more experience and understanding of what is possible and available. Shame is that you offer some kid £10,000 per week to go to one of the OF and he jumps at the chance only to warm the bench at Castle Greyskull or the Tattiedome until the incumbent manager decides to offload them maybe 2 or 3 years later. In the meantime their career has been on hold and when they move it is probably at a level no better than the move they could have got 3 years before whereas they should be looking for a step up to the next level. How many agents advise their clients to stay at their first club to hone their skills for another 12/24 months, albeit at a lower wage, so that they are a more marketable commodity in the long term rather than take the bucks now? No, thought not!

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Post by the hibLOG » Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:05 pm

All true Jimmy. Can't think who you mean by the way.... :wink:

But the other side of the coin has to be represented too. If a young player is too thick or inexperienced to judge for himself then he is equally vulnerable to exploitation by his own club's management. During the 80s, while Aberdeen paid decent enough wages to keep stars from moving to the Weedge, Dundee Utd founded their success on tying up their players (especially young ones) on long contracts that weren't necessarily in their best interests. Richard Gough (spit) incensed Jim MacLean by daring to challenge the thought that as a promising young internationalist he could do no better than stay at Tannadice forever.

Agents' roles have therefore grown on the back of Bosman as much as on any increase in money at the top levels of the game. Freedoms of contract mean there are many more opportunities for players to move, and therefore more opportunities for agents to score a wedge.
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