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Re: Rangers Newco - How the SFL lines up

Post by Scottish » Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:16 am

BBC's Liam McLeod reporting that Peterhead want SFL 3 for Rangers. Arbroath also in favour of SFL 3. That's now between 16-20 for SFL 3 and only two confirmed for SFL 1 with two abstentions.

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Post by Scottish » Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:47 am

Make that 17 definites and possibly 20 as Elgin, hitherto referenced as a possible SFL 3 vote but without any statement, clarify their position. From STV:

"The Directors of Elgin City Football Club have continued to discuss the present crisis facing Scottish Football and have carefully weighed up all the possible scenarios and their outcomes both for Scottish Football and Elgin City FC as a viable club.

"The club have reached the decision that it cannot support the proposal for Rangers Newco to be directly admitted to Division 1 but will support entry to SFL Division 3 in season 2012 / 2013. The Board thanks the supporters and other interested parties who took time to express their views to the Club during this testing time for the future of our game."

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Re: Rangers Newco - How the SFL lines up

Post by HibeeJibee » Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:36 pm

HonestPage (Ayr forum) has claim they're a Yes.

According to the Scotsman and Telegraph the vote may be postponed as too many clubs are now against (though I'm not sure how this would be done).

Interestingly, Telegraph says Clyde submitted an amendment but it was "dismissed".

Clyde's previous very hard-hitting statement:
http://www.clydefc.co.uk/news/2012/07/10/4139/

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Re: Rangers Newco - How the SFL lines up

Post by Scottish » Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:41 pm

HibeeJibee wrote:HonestPage (Ayr forum) has claim they're a Yes.
To what? SFL 1? You'll pardon me if I tell you that I'm not in the habit of frequenting Ayr United forums. Does it mean their chairman is rowing back from his opinion of June 28th?

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Re: Rangers Newco - How the SFL lines up

Post by Scottish » Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:42 pm

Livingston supporter-director David Stoker has confirmed on Twitter his club is voting No to SFL 1 and would do so regardless of which club it was being proposed for it.

And, via STV, Dumbarton leaving Stenhosemuir isolated (for the moment anyway) "There has been speculation that the DFC Board has already made its mind up which way to vote. This speculation is wrong. At this stage there remain further detailed negotiations and concerns still under consideration."

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Re: Rangers Newco - How the SFL lines up

Post by Scottish » Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:31 pm

STV doing a good job today calling round the clubs. They now have Brechin City joining Stenhousemuir in the Yes to SFL 1 camp.

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Post by LEATHERSTOCKING » Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:51 pm

The Sun brings us the valued opinion of that doyan of Scottish football Theo Paphitas. Jings, who next? Katy Price? Madonna? Kylie? Tom Cruise? Mitt Romney? Stewart Regan?


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Re: Rangers Newco - How the SFL lines up

Post by HibeeJibee » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:52 pm

http://m.stv.tv/spor...first-division/

STV have gained a copy of the final offer.

* SFL receive £1M in return for giving TV "and other rights" to SPL

* new united league formed, with a Board containing 3 top-tier directors and 2 from the lower levels

* SPL commit to taking a resolution on play-off to a general meeting

* plus the reconstruction committee announced yesterday happens, to report back by November


However it notes:
These heads of terms are not intended to be a contractual agreement which is legally binding between the parties.

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Post by HibeeJibee » Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:04 pm

Alloa's statement:

http://www.alloaathletic.co.uk/BlogView ... =726&mid=2
While we understand that today's vote will be by secret ballot we have decided that our fans should be advised of the clubs voting intentions before the meeting to allow for clarity and avoid any ambiguity on how we interpret the situation.

We believe that the SPL and possibly the SFA should have taken an earlier and more decisive stance on this issue, instead they ducked their responsibilities until such times that they were no longer in control of the situation.

They then, somewhat bizarrely, came to the SFL meeting and asked us to vote as they wished (against sporting principles) and not as they had done.

Incredibly they then proceeded to threaten our organisation with dire outcomes and implied threats if we did not bend to their joint will.

Even after this Alloa held our own counsel to await our fans responses and the promised response from the SPL and SFA.

We can advise that our fans were decisively against the Newco having direct entry into division one.

Again what we received from the SPL was somewhat surprising. While many of the suggested improvements to the structures of Scottish football moving forward are progressive and long overdue, incredibly, they were then caveated with the condition that the SPL would take complete control, with an inbuilt majority on any new structured board 3 to 2. This would effectively give control of the whole of Scottish senior football to the failed management structure of the SPL.

As we previously advised in our first statement, we would do what we believed was in the best interest of Alloa FC, Scottish Football and sporting integrity. Fortunately we believe that the best interests of all three are mutual.

Alloa can see no reason to vote in any way other than to put the new Rangers in the league that there own manager and fans have asked for, division three.

We hope that everyone involved in football takes this opportunity to remind ourselves that to a large extent the fans are Scottish football, without them what is the point?

We must remember we are here to manage and administer our National game and not to implement anyones narrow will against the avalanche of public and fan opinion, using the excuse of promises of changes which should be taking place anyway.

Financially there may be difficult times ahead, but we would rather face that than agree to sell out for short term financial gain or bend to threats and vote for a flawed proposal.

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Re: Rangers Newco - How the SFL lines up

Post by Scottish » Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:45 pm

I make that 18 for SFL 3 and possibly as high as 21, with 2 abstentions, 2 for SFL 1, 1 possible SFL 1 (Albion Rovers), 1 Michael Johnston fence-sitting tribute act (Dumbarton) and between 3-6 undeclared. All the arm-twisting in the world can't alter this verdict now.

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Re: Rangers Newco - How the SFL lines up

Post by Scottish » Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:30 pm

After all the pro-Rangers propaganda from Roddy Forsyth in the Telegraph, Ewing Grahame emerges (not for the first time) as the Anti-Rod in this excellent piece.

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Re: Rangers Newco - How the SFL lines up

Post by Scottish » Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:40 am

As expected, Ayr United with a very strong statement against SFL 1. Airdrie United and Dundee told to vote, not abstain, so 19 definite Noes, maybe 21, two confirmed Yes, two possible others and five to show their hands.

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Re: Rangers Newco - How the SFL lines up

Post by Scottish » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:17 pm

Offical - well according to the BBC, Rangers to the 3rd division.

29-1 to accept them into league. 25-5 for Div 3

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Re: Rangers Newco - How the SFL lines up

Post by Scottish » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:49 pm

As expected, Airdrie United to SFL 1, Stranraer to SFL 2, Rangers to take over Stranraer's fixtures in SFL 3. But that means 11 clubs now in SFL 1. SPL/SFA surely must accept decision and promote Dundee/Dunfermline to SPL.

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