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A Replay First?

Post by Scottish » Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:24 pm

According to the Daily Record 10/2/1914 the Celtic v Clyde Scottish Cup tie that afternoon was the first time that an "undecided Scottish Cup tie" as they put it, was played on any day other than a Saturday. Does anyone know anything to the contrary? I've checked Kilmarnock replays and protested matches back to 1873-74 and certainly they were all Saturdays.

Also, the billing for the tie in an advert in the paper was for "undecided tie - second round." Yet on the same day the ad for Hibs v Morton to be played the following day was for a "replay tie." This makes me wonder when the term "replay" came into general use. As this was the last Scottish Cup season prior to WW1 then presumably some time after the conflict. Maybe it was one of those terms which gradually crept into use like the way "time added on" seems to be replacing "injury time."

Perhaps I've just answered my own question.

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Re: A Replay First?

Post by Partick Thistle » Tue Aug 12, 2014 11:36 pm

Thistle’s first non-Saturday Scottish Cup tie was played on Tuesday 8th February 1921 - against the Hibs at Firhill. It was a 2nd Round Replay.

After 40 years of Scottish Cup Saturdays we had no less than six midweek Scottish Cup ties in less than 2 months in 1921 – all replays.

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Re: A Replay First?

Post by Alan McCabe » Wed Aug 13, 2014 7:16 am

The longest ever Scottish Cup tie between Beith and Broxburn Athletic in 1909 was certainly played on midweek days although that was from the 2nd Replay on.

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Re: A Replay First?

Post by Scottish » Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:57 am

Yes, I think there were a lot of midweek second and subsequent replays when the ties needed to be completed before the next round of the games. My fault for not citing the full quote which should have read "the SECOND game (my emphasis) of an undecided Scottish Cup tie."

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Re: A Replay First?

Post by bobby s » Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:41 pm

I've a note of the following games:

Thursday 13th February 1896 QF Rangers 2 Hibs 3 (I've got a not against this questioning if it's the Saturday) Edit: the Scotsman says Saturday so just ignore this

Wednesday 23rd January 1907 1st Hibs 5 Forfar Athletic 0

Wednesday 23rd March 1910 SF (at Parkhead) Hibs 0 Dundee 1 (Second Replay)

Wednesday 14th February 1912 1st (at Ibrox) Hibs 1 Hearts 3
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Re: A Replay First?

Post by Scottish » Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:53 am

bobby s wrote:I've a note of the following games:

Thursday 13th February 1896 QF Rangers 2 Hibs 3 (I've got a not against this questioning if it's the Saturday) Edit: the Scotsman says Saturday so just ignore this

Wednesday 23rd January 1907 1st Hibs 5 Forfar Athletic 0

Wednesday 23rd March 1910 SF (at Parkhead) Hibs 0 Dundee 1 (Second Replay)

Wednesday 14th February 1912 1st (at Ibrox) Hibs 1 Hearts 3

The Forfar game wasn't a replay AFAIK. It took place, for some reason, three days before the scheduled first round matches.
I have the 1912 game as a second replay (why would a first be at Ibrox?) with the first game at Tynecastle on Sat Jan 27th and the first replay two weeks later on Feb 10th at Easter Road

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Re: A Replay First?

Post by HibeeJibee » Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:21 pm

scottish wrote:
bobby s wrote: Wednesday 23rd January 1907 1st Hibs 5 Forfar Athletic 0
The Forfar game wasn't a replay AFAIK. It took place, for some reason, three days before the scheduled first round matches.
According to the Scotsman it was "an experiment of playing such a match during the week". Attendance: 1500.

Hibs hosted Leith in an EOS League (i.e. Supplementary League) game on the Saturday, almost certainly a 'filler'. Forfar went to Dunfermline in the Northern League.

Interestingly, Walker of Leith died on the day of the Hibs-Forfar tie, as a result of injuries received at Vale of Leven earlier in the month.

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