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History of Scottish Club Kits

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 3:37 pm
by HistoryDave
I recently set up the Historical Football Kits website http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/, which covers all the kits worn by every club to have competed in the (English) Football League. Due to popular demand, I have decided to start work on researching Scottish Football League clubs and will add a Scottish section to the site at some point in the future.

I am going to struggle with this because there is not very much information available on the web on the topic, particularly on he many clubs that have long since dropped out.

If you have any information on the colours of clubs like Abercorn, Cambusland, Thistle, Arthurlie, Bo'ness etc, I would be delighted to hear from you.

I can be contacted by e-mail using the links on the Historical Kits site.

Thanks in anticipation!

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 12:00 am
by Scottish
Hi and welcome to the Forum. Best place for club colours is 'The Scottish Football League Past Members' compiled by Norman Nicol. This is in five parts and was published by Stewart Davidson of the Scottish Non-League Review. He can be contacted via his website http://www.snlr.co.uk/

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:08 am
by Alan McCabe
Dave Twydell's three volume 'Rejected FC of Scotland' includes all those details requested.
Out of print for quite some time now, various volumes occasionally appear for sale at such places as Eden Books or on ebay.
Some of the former league clubs did have such little coverage though that its nigh on impossible to compile a decent history on them. As far as i know no pictures have been traced of such clubs as Cambuslang, Thistle, Northern or Linthouse, and these were all teams from a Glasgow that had a multitude of press offerings.

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:15 pm
by LEATHERSTOCKING
Association club with the longest adherence to the same uniform? QUEEN`S PARK of course with 133 years & counting. Can`t vouch for English non league but I`d guess this is a world record.

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 11:42 pm
by Scottish
LEATHERSTOCKING wrote:Association club with the longest adherence to the same uniform? QUEEN`S PARK of course with 133 years & counting.
Maybe time for a wash then?

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 7:31 pm
by BMCCOLL
Excellent site, well worth looking at.

Historical Kits

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 12:01 am
by HistoryDave
Queen's Park wore navy jerseys in 1872 when they provided all eleven players for the Scotland team who played England. The now familiar hooped shirts came in sometime later (I haven't established exactly when at this stage.)

Nottingham Forest adopted "Garibaldi" (ie dark red) red and white as their colours in 1865, the year of their formation but I believe they did not adopt red shirts until around 1870 because prior to this, teams played in whatever they had to hand and wore scarves, caps etc in their club colours to distinguish the teams.

It is therefore debatable if QP or Nottm Forest have played the longest in the same jerseys. Of course, Forest have fiddled about with their shirts in recent years while QP have by and large kept faith with the original narrow hooped design.

So there you go.

History Dave

Scottish League Historical Kits - your views please

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 12:12 am
by HistoryDave
I am considering whether to publish the results of my research into Scottish Football League kits as a work in progress on my http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/ site.

The advantage would be that everyone would be able to see what I have collected and contribute.

The disadvantage would be that visitors may be disappointed that their club is not featured and be turned off the site.

I'd welcome views.

HistoryDave

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 12:18 am
by Scottish
I would think it's more likely to add traffic to your site and possibly fill in some of the blanks.

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:54 am
by the hibLOG
scottish wrote:I would think it's more likely to add traffic to your site and possibly fill in some of the blanks.
Absolutely, so long as you make it very clear that it's work in progress and that readers are welcome to forward details to help complete it.

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:49 pm
by LEATHERSTOCKING
Queen`s first wore their hooped jerseys with white knickers and black & white hooped stockings vs. Dumbreck on 25th October 1873, the club`s first ever Scottish Cup tie. Until then, they wore dark blue jerseys with white knickers and red stockings but so many of new clubs which sprang up after the "International" of November 1872 chose this outfit that Queen`s changed. When Queen`s first played a game against another club isn`t clear. The first recorded one was in the summer of 1868 when I can only assume they wore blue. For how long has Notts County worn black & white stripes?

QP kits etc

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:37 pm
by HistoryDave
Thanks Leatherstocking - duly noted. Notts County didn't adopt stripes jerseys until around 1890: akthough this is their "signature" kit, they have spent several periods wearing predominantly white shirts and even, very breify, reverted to chocolate and blue in the 1930s. Dave

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:05 am
by the greench
Your English kit site is fantastic. Go for a Scottish version, it'll go down well