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Oldest Scorers

Postby Skyline Drifter » Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:12 pm

Question has been raised on P&B about the oldest SFL scorers in light of Craig Brewster netting for Ross County at the weekend at the tender age of 42 years and 70 days (I'm told).

I presume that isn't a record? Anyone know who and when the oldest scorer was?
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Postby Scottish » Tue Feb 24, 2009 1:42 am

Graeme Armstrong was certainly older when he scored twice within a week in 1998-99. On November 21st 1998 he got Stenhousemuir's goal in their 2-1 defeat at home v Berwick Rangers and seven days later scored again in their 3-1 away win over Albion Rovers. He was 42 years and 5 months old at the time - or 42 years and 158 days if I've calculated correctly, at the time of the Albion Rovers game.

I suspect he may not be the oldest either. The problem is that dates of birth aren't widely available for many players, particularly those in the pre-WW2 era.

In England Stanley Matthews famously played until he was 50 with his last goal coming at 48 but even Matthews couldn't quite manage to score when he was as old as Billy Meredith. The legendary Welsh winger was a mere stripling of 46 when he scored his last league goal - for Man Utd in a 2-1 home defeat by Everton on February 12th 1921 but three years later he scored for Manchester City in a third round (last sixteen) tie at Brighton on February 23rd 1924 when City won 5-1. He was 49 years 210 days old at the time (he played in the losing side in the semi-finals five weeks later).

Roger Milla was (officially at least) 42 years and 39 days old when he scored for Cameroon v Russia in the World Cup on June 28th 1994. He may well have been older as no one seems to be quite sure of his date of birth.

Perhaps even more unusual than that (but a mere youth by comparison to the other 'oldies' here) was German goalscoring hero Uwe Seeler who scored a couple of goals for Cork Celtic in the League of Ireland, aged 41. Quite a few well-known players ended their playing careers in Irish football. Jimmy Delaney was nearly 42 when he played in the FAI Cup Final but he was back in Scotland in the Highland League with Elgin City by the time of his 42nd birthday. Gordon Smith joined Drumcondra, aged 40, but again wasn't there long enough to challenge any of the above scorers.
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Postby Skyline Drifter » Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:39 pm

Cheers for the info.

There will be others. I know Tommy Bryce was still playing at over 40 years old (not sure when his last goal was though). I think in the 50's Charlie Johnston was playing and scoring for us into his 40's but not exactly what age he was.
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Postby LEATHERSTOCKING » Thu Feb 26, 2009 5:45 pm

Morton manager Davie Irons was 42 years 119 days when he scored the winner for Gretna vs. Elgin City 3rd Division 20/3/2004. What Brewster appears to have achieved is one of the longest playing careers in Scottish football. Graeme Armstrong seems to be have had the longest @ 25 years & 346 days with Irons`s span being 24 years & 341 days & Andy Millen next on 23 years & 182 days. Brewsters` is now 23 years 89 days. There is mystery shrouding Aberdeen`s Donald Coleman who MAY have played from 1895 with Renton up to 1923 with Aberdeen. If there are any others, feel free.
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Postby Scottish » Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:20 pm

Donald Colman played until he was four months short of his 45th birthday. His last senior match was for Dumbarton away to Kings Park in April 1923. However his senior career wasn't as long as others mentioned here. According to Douglas Lamming's "Who's Who" of Scottish internationalists his career path was Tontine Athletic, Glasgow Perthshire, a resurrected Tontine, Renton and Maryhill before joining Motherwell in 1905.

He doesn't appear on John Litster's pre-war disk until he signed for Motherwell. Since the SFA registration records start in 1893 he should have appeared if he'd been with Renton before the quit the league in 1897.

Lamming has him as being in the juniors with Maryhill for eight seasons and there's a Coleman played at right-back in Maryhill's Junior Cup Final success in 1900 and the losing side of 1901 (I don't have a line-up for Maryhill for the 1902 final) which tends to bear him out.

For longevity, what about Tommy Hutchison? Started out with Alloa in 1965-66 and finished his league career with Swansea in 1991. Even then he wasn't finished, spending the next three seasons in the Conference with Merthyr Tydfil.
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Postby Frank Booth » Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:14 pm

I'm sure Ally MacLeod scored for QotS in a reserve match at Love St when in his 60s, perhaps SD can confirm?
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Postby Skyline Drifter » Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:17 pm

Frank Booth wrote:I'm sure Ally MacLeod scored for QotS in a reserve match at Love St when in his 60s, perhaps SD can confirm?

To re-quote from P&B:
Ally McLeod actually played THREE times for our reserve side as a 'Trialist' starting with a fixture on Sunday April 17th 1992 at Stenhousemuir when he played 20 minutes in a 4-0 defeat which we finished with ten men due to injuries. The following day we lost 6-2 at Stirling Albion and again he played 20 minutes and incredibly the next day again he played from the start at Love Street against St Mirren. We actually lost 8-1 but as stated McLeod scored our goal from the penalty spot.

McLeod was born on 26th February 1931 so was 61 years and 53 days old when he scored against St Mirren. It was a reserve match though at the end of the day, not first team football.
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Postby Scottish » Wed Aug 26, 2009 5:28 pm

This guy might take some beating

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The text entry for him on the Guinness Book of Records site says:

"Oldest football player
Tércio Mariano de Rezende (Brazil, b. 31 December 1921) is currently the world's oldest regular football player. He regularly plays in the regional Championship as right wing for Goiandira Esporte Clube in Goiandira, Goiás, Brazil."


I wonder if he had a Scottish granny?
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Postby LEATHERSTOCKING » Wed Aug 26, 2009 5:52 pm

Isn`t Davy Weir 91?
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Postby the hibLOG » Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:33 pm

LEATHERSTOCKING wrote:Isn`t Davy Weir 91?


Aye he is, but do own goals count?
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Postby the hibLOG » Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:36 pm

scottish wrote:I wonder if he had a Scottish granny?


He's probably chasing one.
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Postby Scottish » Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:55 pm

the hibLOG wrote:
scottish wrote:I wonder if he had a Scottish granny?


He's probably chasing one.


If he's fast enough to catch her then he's in the squad.
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Oldest scorers

Postby kiwiscot » Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:02 pm

Whilst not coming near Ally McLeods playing into his 60s, I seem to recall Davie Wilson turning out in reserve fixtures in his 50s when he was managing.
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Re: Oldest Scorers

Postby HibeeJibee » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:56 pm

Bump.

East Kilbride's social media is suggesting Robbie Winters may have become the oldest-ever Scottish Cup goalscorer today, netting twice in a 9-1 First Round win.

Remarkably, Winters is less than 6 weeks short of his 42nd birthday.

None of the usual suspects... Craig Brewster, Andy Millen, Davie Irons, Graeme Armstrong, etc. etc. ... seem to surpass that.

Anyone?
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Re: Oldest Scorers

Postby Bristol Rovers » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:07 pm

Not strictly the same topic, but a parallel one .... Rab Douglas' game at the weekend for Arbroath makes him one of the oldest players to appear in the Scottish League. Here is a provisional top seven, but I am sure there are more to add - so, here is a starting-point for the oldest men to play in the Scottish League:

1. Bobby Geddes (49y 252d) b12.8.60 pl21.4.10 Raith R v Dundee
2. Jim Calder (46y 245d) b 29.7.60 pl 31.3.07 Peterhead v Ayr U
3. Henry Smith (46y 188d) b 10.3.56 pl 14.9.02 Berwick R v Stranraer
4. Andy Millen (45y 331d) b 10.6.65 pl 7.5.11 Q Park v Montrose
5. Rab Douglas (45y 201d) b 24.4.72 pl 11.11.17 QPark v Arbroath
6. Graeme Armstrong (44y 287d) b 23.6.56 pl 7.4.01 Clydebank v Alloa A
7. John Burridge (44y 104d) b 3.12.51 pl 16.3.96 QoS (v ?)
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