Player Information, late 1800's

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Player Information, late 1800's

Post by Insertnamehere » Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:29 pm

Does anyone have any information of the following two players? James Alexander Millar born 1872 died 1923 and Tommy Seymour, both were with Arthurlie in season 1896/97 Seymour being the captian but I cant find any records of them.

I have a team picture from the 1890's which is of Middlesbrough Ironopolis and believe Seymour is in the team picture, the person who gave me the picture is Millars grandaugher but they two mens childdren later married and solving why she would ahve the picture.

I read there was a very detailed website for Middlesbrough Ironopolis but its went offline now?

Any information would be much appreciated.

Thanks
Robert

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Post by jeroen » Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:35 am

Thomas Seymour born 7-6-1866 Ahoghill (Antrim) died 12-5-1951 Barrhead.

His family moved to Scotland ca. 1869

1886 Arthurlie
Dec 1889 Ironopolis
Aug 1893 Leicester Fosse
1895- Arthurlie

Source: Of Fossils and Foxes by DAve Smith and Paul Taylor

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Post by Scottish » Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:09 pm

Insertnamehere wrote:
I read there was a very detailed website for Middlesbrough Ironopolis but its went offline now?
There is - or until the mid-1990s at any rate there was - a Middlesbrough Ironopolis Social Club situated in the Pallister Park area of the town though whether they have/had any info on the club I don't know. But I'm sure all the former league clubs in England have had a 'complete history' published at some point.

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Post by BMCCOLL » Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:38 am

Insertnamehere wrote: I read there was a very detailed website for Middlesbrough Ironopolis but its went offline now?
This was an excellent archive which gave a thorough history of this short-lived club, but the site crossed the Styx when AOL closed down its Hometown hosting last year...shame.

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Post by jeroen » Sun Oct 25, 2009 2:15 pm

You can find this site in the webarchive:

http://web.archive.org/web/200503082252 ... ronopolis/

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Post by Insertnamehere » Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:43 pm

Thanks all for the info and web site.

Robert

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Post by Insertnamehere » Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:45 am

I have found another name with a similar route, Archie Hughes born Barrhead 1871 played fro Arthurlie then Middlesbrough Ironopolis, Bolton then on to Leicster Fosse.

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Post by leicester » Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:33 am

Having been quoted as a source in this string, herewith the latest on the two relevant subjects, from a long-term Leicester supporter/historian:


HUGHES, Archibald Morris
b. Neilston, Renfrewshire, 18th May 1870
Career: Barrhead; Arthurlie; cs 1892 Middlesbrough Ironopolis; cs 1893 Bolton Wanderers ; Aug 1894 FOSSE; cs 1895 Glossop North End; cs 1896 Chatham.
Fosse debut v Grimsby Town (A) 1.9.1894
> Preparing for their first tilt at League football, Fosse signed Archie to assume their ‘playmaker’ role and, according to the custom of the day, handed him either the centre-half or inside-forward berth from which to direct midfield operations. One of the quintet of ex-Nops at Leicester during 1894/5, he had helped the Middlesbrough club to the Northern League championship in 1893, and assisted First Division Bolton to the FA Cup Final a year later, only to spend all but the first five minutes of their defeat by Notts County as a limping passenger. His track record with Fosse was interrupted, however, for different reasons, as Archie twice found himself suspended by the committee for breaches of training discipline, and his services dispensed with at season’s end. The son of a bleacher, Archie was himself following that trade back in Scotland by 1901.
Apps: FL 18; FAC 3.
Goals: FL 2.


SEYMOUR, Thomas
b. Ahoghill, Antrim, 7th June 1866
d. Barrhead, Renfrewshire, 12th May 1951
Career: 1886 Arthurlie; Dec 1889 Middlesbrough Ironopolis; Aug 1893 FOSSE; cs 1895 Arthurlie.
Fosse debut v Burton Wanderers (H) ML 9.9.1893
> When the ‘Nops’ were formed as the first professional club on Teesside, Tom was netted in the customary initial trawl of Scottish talent, and scored their first-ever goal in their introductory fixture, a December 1889 friendly against Gainsborough Trinity. Within a year and a half, Ironopolis were Northern League champions, and when Tom notched a hat-trick for them in the final fixture of 1892/3, it was to seal a third successive title win. So his release on the eve of their election to the Football League was a surprise, as was Fosse’s capture of a classy, forceful right-half for their final, runners-up campaign in the Midland League. Fosse were only too keen to retain Tom’s services for their own elevation to the Second Division, and it was ironic that Middlesbrough had dropped out of that sphere after only one term, while Fosse fought their opening campaign with five ex-Nops in their line-up. Sadly, though, Tom was badly injured at Burton in February 1895, and thereafter made his recuperative return to Scotland permanent. Tom, whose family moved from Ireland to Scotland in about 1869, and who initially worked in the calico printing trade, represented Renfrewshire both before and after his English experience; was a runner-up in the Renfrewshire Cup Final of 1887 (a riot-interrupted game against Abercorn); and a beaten finalist again in the Scottish Qualifying Cup of 1898/9 when, as captain, he scored Arthurlie’s consolation against East Stirlingshire. He had retired, however, prior to Arthurlie’s 1901 election to the Scottish League.
Apps: FL 19; FAC 13; ML 20.
Goals: FL 1; FAC 1; ML 1.

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Post by johnboy » Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:03 pm

Correction the date 1972 was his nephew.

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