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Non-Scottish Internationalists with Scottish clubs

Post by Scottish » Sun Jun 19, 2005 10:30 pm

One of our members is trying to compile a definitive list of players capped for their country while with Scottish clubs. We're talking non-Scots here and it's not as simple as you might think. For instance neither Inverness CT nor Livingston have definitive records for recent players like Richard Hastings (Canada), David Alleyne (Barbados) and Marvin Andrews (Trinidad & Tobago). See here for further details.

Remember, the player has to have been CAPPED while with a Scottish club. Which rules out for example the likes of Franck Sauzee whose caps all came before he moved to Scotland.

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Post by Scott » Tue Jun 21, 2005 7:51 pm

Don't forget Drago!

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Post by bobby s » Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:20 am

We never had any at Hibs for years, and then,

The definites:
Tony Rougier
Lyndon Andrews
Russell Latapy
Paul Fenwick
Joe Baker
Alen Orman
Nick Colgan

The Possibles I'll need to check:
Jarkko Wiss
Ollie Letsgoalssin
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Post by Alan McCabe » Sun Jul 24, 2005 2:06 pm

Did Hurtado or Dela Cruz not gain Colombian caps while at Easter Road?

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Post by Scottish » Sun Jul 24, 2005 4:29 pm

I'm sure De La Cruz did. See When the Ecuadorians go up written at the time of the last World Cup.

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Post by bobby s » Sun Jul 24, 2005 8:03 pm

Indeed, Useless on a Cruise was frequently away from ER to play for Ecuador.
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Post by Scottish » Sun Jul 24, 2005 9:12 pm

Last time round there were six SPL players at the World Cup. How many this time round? Prso perhaps and that's about it.

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Post by bobby s » Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:17 pm

scottish wrote:Last time round there were six SPL players at the World Cup. How many this time round? Prso perhaps and that's about it.
Maybe that's no such a bad thing.

One the one hand, the non old firm teams are returning to Scottish players.

On the other, it means the old firm are only attracting foreign diddies rather than half decent foreigners.
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Post by Scottish » Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:30 pm

This is the problem though. It's one thing saying to young players you'll have a job getting into the first team because of Laudrup or Larsson, another that they're not good enough to compete with FannyFanny or Nackeredmurder

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Post by bobby s » Wed Jul 27, 2005 8:01 pm

Aye, Celtics youngsters will be wondering what they have to do to get a game after tonight.
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Post by Scottish » Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:52 pm

I wonder when the first 'Strachan must go' banners will appear

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Post by Gunboat Briggs » Thu Aug 25, 2005 9:07 pm

These are all the relevant names for Dundee United, as far as I can work out...

Orjan Persson (Sweden)
Lennart Wing (Sweden)
Mixu Paatelainen (Finland)
Miodrag Krivokapic (Yugoslavia)
Michael O'Neill (Northern Ireland)
Jerren Nixon (Trinidad & Tobago)
Siggi Jónsson (Iceland)
Jason De Vos (Canada)
Jan Telesnikov (Israel)
Pat Onstad (Canada) - never played in the first team at Tannadice!
Danny Griffin (Northern Ireland)
Jason Scotland (Trinidad & Tobago)
Collin Samuel (Trinidad & Tobago)

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Post by Scottish » Thu Aug 25, 2005 9:18 pm

Thanks, Gunboat and welcome to the forum. Didn't Finn Dossing get any caps while at Tannadice then?

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First Foreign player capped?

Post by Alan Brown » Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:22 am

Its going back a while here, but I am sure the first real "foreign" player capped while at a Scottish club was the Dane Carl Hansen, who played with Rangers in the early 1920s. Another pre WW2 one which springs to mind is Mohammed Latif.

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Post by Gunboat Briggs » Fri Aug 26, 2005 7:33 pm

Thanks to a small mental block I managed to miss out two more Northern Irish caps, Iain Jenkins and Darren Patterson, from my United list. Mind you, if you saw them play then you'd understand why I'd want to to suppress the memories!

Regarding Finn Døssing, perhaps surprisingly he was never capped for Denmark at all. United's other 60's Scandinavians, Mogens Berg (Denmark) and Finn Seemann (Norway) were both picked up caps before and after, but not during, their Tannadice careers. The Scandinavian leagues were amateur at that time, and I think players playing professionally abroad weren't usually considered for the national teams.

I checked Carl Hansen's stats in a list of Danish internationals and while I think's it true to say he was the first continental import to Scottish football all his caps were before coming to Ibrox - same story as above I expect.

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