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Broxburn Athletic v Hearts, 1908 (post shortened)

Post by HibeeJibee » Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:00 pm

Wee query.

1907-08 was the fifth season of the East of Scotland 'City' Cup - and the last time Hibs and Hearts both entered. At a meeting of the EOSFA on 25th March 1908, the Semi-Finals were drawn:
* Broxburn Athletic v Hearts
* Leith or St Bernard's v Hibs

Broxburn Athletic had beaten West Lothian Albion 3-1 on 14th March. West Lothian protested over something, but withdrew it at that meeting on the 25th, as their witnesses couldn't attend. Leith and St Bernard's didn't play their tie until 18th April, finished 0-0 - replayed 22nd April, St Bernard's won 2-0.

Saints Semi-Final tie against Hibs was 28th April, finished 0-0 and was held-over to August. They couldn't agree dates so on 6th August the EOSFA fixed it for 26th August. But Hibs had arranged to play Leith 2 days before in the North-Eastern Cup - they withdrew.

At a meeting on 20th August, the EOSFA "suggested that the Hearts should play the tie instead on that date". They did, and won, beating St Bernard's 2-1... having been "chosen by the East of Scotland Association to take the place of the Hibernians who had withdrawn".

Interestingly - and one wonders whether it was coincidental, or if something was already awry - this power was only added at the EOSFA AGM on 4th June.


But all that begs the question - what about the other Semi-Final tie, Broxburn Athletic v Hearts? I’ve found no record of such fixture, yet Hearts seemingly had to be put back in to play St Bernard’s.

Does anyone know if it was played, or what happened?
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Re: Broxburn Athletic v Hearts, 1908 (post shortened)

Post by HibeeJibee » Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:04 pm

Original post was horrifically long, I've edited it down to something accessible.

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Re: Broxburn Athletic v Hearts, 1908 (post shortened)

Post by Scottish » Thu Nov 17, 2011 11:29 am

Just a thought: do you have any record of the final? If not then is it possible that Hearts may have won their semi or Broxburn Athletic had withdrawn and the minute is a clumsy way of saying the final would be between Hearts and St Bernard's?

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Re: Broxburn Athletic v Hearts, 1908 (post shortened)

Post by gogsy1968 » Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:26 pm

scottish wrote:Just a thought: do you have any record of the final? If not then is it possible that Hearts may have won their semi or Broxburn Athletic had withdrawn and the minute is a clumsy way of saying the final would be between Hearts and St Bernard's?
Hearts v St Bernards on 26th August was the final. West Lothian Courier for that period might be the best place to check for info on Broxburn Athletic games. Nothing mentioned in the book "The Broxburn Football Story" regarding the semi final.

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Re: Broxburn Athletic v Hearts, 1908 (post shortened)

Post by HibeeJibee » Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:33 pm

Apologies, yes, St Bernard's 1-2 Hearts the Final. As Scottish says it may just be a clumsily-worded way of saying St Bernard's get a bye to the Final, though previous cases I've come-across in EOS Shield haven't such phrasing.

Anyway, it would be interesting if anyone had come across what happened to Broxburn Athletic v Hearts. Broxburn Athletic were a pretty well-regarded club at the time and had no history of scratching cups from what I can see, and their official won the ballot for the SFA General Committee and was Treasurer of the EOSFA - doesn't look like a club likely scratch a SF v Hearts.

Equally if that West Lothian Albion protest resurfaced, a replay or Albion taking Broxburn Athletic's place against Hearts would've been the usual practice, not for Hearts to get byed to the Final. Although, policies always change - in 1911 Leith scratched out of the City Cup Semi-Final, as Hibs did in 1908, but the EOSFA made Hearts take their place to avoid St Bernard's not having to play a Semi-Final.

Thanks for the Courier suggestion.

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