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Post by Rob R » Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:17 am

Just finished watching the Man U V Ajax Europa League game and I wondered if this was the first time 2 players that played for the same Scottish club (or English for that matter )have opposed each other in an European tie? Also the commentator said that the crowd of 67000 at Old Trafford was a record for an Europa Cup tie.(Given that the Europa Cup is a continuation of the UEFA Cup and the Inter Cities Fairs Cup,) What would that attendence sit in the rankings of the tournament through the name changes. Off the top of my head Rangers matches against Leeds & Newcastle should rival that and some Barcelona, Real Madrid and possibly Red Star Belgrade home European ties.

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Post by Scottish » Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:49 pm

As far as the Fairs Cup is concerned these matches all drew bigger crowds than Man Utd's 67,328 last night.

GKS Katowice v Barcelona - 85,000 1st round 16/9/1970
Ruch Chorzow v Fiorentina - 85,000 1st round 16/9/1970
Rangers v Bayern Munich - 82,743 1st round 30/9/1970
Ferencvaros v Arges Pitesti - 80,000 1st round 11/10/1967
Barcelona v Inter Milan - 80,000 3rd round 14/1/1970
Rangers v Newcastle United - 76,083 SF 14/5/1969
Ferencvaros v Leeds United - 76,000 Final 2nd leg 11/09/1968
Barcelona v Sheffield Wednesday - 75,000 QF 28/3/1962
Ferencvaros v Manchester United - 72,318 SF play-off 16/6/1965
Barcelona v Birmingham City - 70,000, Final 2nd leg 4/5/1960
Barcelona v Chelsea - 70,000 SF 27/4/1966
Rapid Bucharest v Vitoria Setubal - 70,000 1st round 1/10/1969
Barcelona v GKS Katowice - 70,000 1st round 23/9/1970
Ferencvaros v Olympija Ljubljana - 68,000 1st round 5/10/1966
Lokomotiv Leipzig v Benfica - 68,000 3rd round 21/12/1966

I'll try and get back to you with the UEFA Cup later

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Post by Scottish » Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:58 pm

In addition to the fifteen Fairs Cup games above with bigger crowds than Man Utd v Ajax in the Europa League, there were 94 matches with bigger gates in the UEFA Cup between 1971-2009. However, most of these were in the competition's heyday in the 1970s and 1980s. There were only three such crowds this century, after the various format changes to the Champions League.

Real Madrid v Neuchatel Xamax - 100,000 QF 5/3/1986
Red Star Belgrade v Borussia Munchengladbach - 98,000 Final 1st leg 9/5/1979
Red Star Belgrade v West Bromwich Albion - 95,000 QF 7/3/1979
Red Star Belgrade v Bayern Munich - 95,000 3rd round 12/12/1979
Real Madrid v Anderlecht - 95,000 3rd round 12/12/1984
Real Madrid v Tottenham Hotspur - 95,000 QF 20/3/1985
Real Madrid v Borussia Munchengladbach - 95,000 3rd round 11/12/1985
Dinamo Kiev v Eintracht Braunschweig - 93,000 1st round 14/9/1977
Benfica v Roma - 93,000 1st round 3/10/1990
Barcelona v Guimaraes - 91,000 2nd round 17/10/1995
Barcelona v Liverpool - 90,832 SF 5/4/2001
Real Madrid v Inter Milan - 90,200 SF 24/4/1985
Real Madrid v Videoton - 90,200 Final 2nd leg 22/5/1985
Dinamo Tbilisi v Inter Milan - 90,000 1st round 28/9/1977
Barcelona v Aston Villa - 90,000 QF 15/3/1978
Napoli v Dinamo Tbilisi - 90,000 1st round 29/9/1982
Real Madrid v Inter Milan - 90,000 SF 16/4/1986
Real Madrid v Torino - 90,000 SF 1/4/1992
Barcelona v PSV Eindhoven - 90,000 QF 5/3/1996
Barcelona v Bayern Munich - 90,000 SF 16/4/1996
Napoli v Juventus - 89,089 QF 15/3/1989
AC Milan v Everton - 85,825 1st round 1/10/1975
Barcelona v PSV Eindhoven - 85,000 SF 12/4/1978
Real Madrid v AEK Athens - 85,000 1st round 2/10/1985
Inter Milan v Real Madrid - 83,000 SF 2/4/1986
Inter Milan v Schalke 04 - 81,675 Final 2nd leg 21/5/1997
Napoli v Stuttgart - 81,093 Final 1st leg 3/5/1989
Inter Milan v Borussia Munchengladbach - 81,000 2nd round 7/11/1979
Juventus v Parma - 80,754 Final 2nd leg 17/5/1995
Dinamo Tbilisi v Napoli - 80,550 1st round 15/9/1982
Inter Milan v Casino Salzburg - 80,326 Final 2nd leg 11/5/1994
Lokomotiv Leipzig v Napoli - 80,100 2nd round 26/10/1988
Barcelona v Athletic Bilbao - 80,000 QF 2/3/1977
Juventus v AEK Athens - 80,000 SF 6/4/1977
Dinamo Tbilisi v Hertha Berlin - 80,000 2nd round 1/11/1978
Dinamo Tbilisi v KB Copenhagen - 80,000 2nd round 2/11/1977
Dinamo Tbilisi v Grasshoppers Zurich - 80,000 3rd round 23/11/1977
Benfica v Anderlecht - 80,000 Final 2nd leg 18/5/1983
Olympiakos Piraeus v Universitatea Craiova - 80,000 2nd round 7/11/1984
Panathinaikos v Honved - 80,000 3rd round 9/12/1987
Dinamo Tbilisi v Werder Bremen - 80,000 3rd round 9/12/1987
Sporting Lisbon v Inter Milan - 80,000 SF 10/4/1991
Red Star Belgrade v Cologne - 79,750 3rd round 22/11/1989
Juventus v Borussia Dortmund - 78,797 SF 4/4/1995
Inter Milan v Hamburg - 78,398 3rd round 12/12/1984
Napoli v Bayern Munich - 77,593 SF 5/4/1989
Barcelona v Celtic - 77,108 4th round 25/3/2004
Inter Milan v Cologne - 76,800 QF 6/3/1985
Inter Milan v Real Madrid - 75,521 SF 10/4/1985
Levski Spartak v Ajax Amsterdam - 75,000 3rd round 10/12/1975
Dinamo Tbilisi v Napoli - 75,000 1st round 13/9/1978
Juventus v Athletic Bilbao - 75,000 Final 1st leg 4/5/1977
Red Star Belgrade v Hertha Berlin - 75,000 SF 11/4/1979
Hertha Berlin v Red Star Belgrade - 75,000 SF 25/4/1979
Benfica v Zurich - 75,000 3rd round 8/12/1982
Red Star Belgrade v Hellas Verona - 75,000 1st round 28/9/1983
Real Madrid v Chernomorets Odessa - 75,000 2nd round 23/10/1985
Panathinaikos v Auxerre - 75,000 1st round 17/9/1987
Panathinaikos v Bruges - 75,000 QF 2/3/1988
Sporting Lisbon v Ajax Amsterdam - 75,000 1st round 7/9/1988
Real Madrid v Moscow Dynamo - 75,000 2nd round 1/11/1994
Lokomotiv Leipzig v Tottenham Hotspur - 74,698 SF 10/4/1974
Napoli v Toulouse - 73,875 - 1st round 17/91986
Bayern Munich v Napoli - 73,132 SF 19/4/1989
Panathinaikos v Torino - 73,000 1st round 2/10/1985
Bayern Munich v Inter Milan - 73,000 3rd round 23/11/1988
Lokomotiv Leipzig v Fortuna Dusseldorf - 71,066 3rd round 12/12/1973
Stuttgart v Dukla Prague - 71,000 3rd round 23/11/1978
Roma v Inter Milan - 71,000 Final 2nd leg 22/5/1991
Schalke 04 v Magdeburg - 70,600 2nd round 2/11/1977
Red Star Belgrade v Tottenham Hotspur - 70,000 3rd round 13/12/1972
Stuttgart v Feyenoord - 70,000 SF 24/4/1974
Red Star Belgrade v AEK Athens - 70,000 3rd round 8/12/1976
Stuttgart v Dinamo Dresden - 70,000 2nd round 7/11/1979
Roma v IFK Norrkoping - 70,000 2nd round 20/10/1982
Sporting Lisbon v Dinamo Minsk - 70,000 2nd round 24/10/1984
Sporting Lisbon v Feyenoord - 70,000 1st round 18/9/1985
Sporting Lisbon v Athletic Bilbao - 70,000 3rd round 11/12/1985
Sporting Lisbon v Bologna - 70,000 QF 20/3/1991
Inter Milan v Sporting Lisbon - 70,000 SF 24/4/1991
Torino v Ajax Amsterdam - 70,000 Final 1st leg 29/4/1992
Panathinaikos v Juventus - 70,000 2nd round 4/11/1992
Real Madrid v Paris St Germain - 70,000 QF 2/3/1993
Lazio v Porto - 69,873 SF 24/4/2003
Inter Milan v Austria Vienna - 69,659 3rd round 7/12/1983
AC Milan v Tottenham Hotspur - 69,606 SF 19/4/1972
Benfica v Roma - 69,000 QF 16/3/1983
Inter Milan v Roma - 68,887 Final 1st leg 8/5/1991
Spartak Moscow v Arsenal - 68,500 1st round 14/9/1982
Real Madrid v Ipswich Town - 68,049 1st round 3/10/1973
Inter Milan v Bayern Munich - 68,158 3rd round 7/12/1988
Real Madrid v Kaisersalutern - 68,000 QF 3/3/1982
Barcelona v Sevilla - 68,000 3rd round 5/12/1995
Real Madrid v Rapid Vienna - 67,500 3rd round 9/12/1981


Highest Scottish: Celtic v Nottingham Forest - 66,938 3rd round 7/12/1983

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Post by Scottish » Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:29 am

In addition to the 109 Fairs/UEFA Cup matches with bigger crowds than Man Utd v Ajax, there have been (until the end of 2010-11) 469 European Cup/Champions League matches with bigger attendances. 244 of them in the pre-Champions League era (1955-1992) and almost as many, 225, in almost half the time since (1992-2011). Usual caveats about figures ending in three zeroes.

Where a match wasn't played on the usual ground of the home club or was a final I have put the stadium in brackets.

1955-1992
136,505 Celtic v Leeds United 15/4/1970 (Hampden)
130,000 Real Madrid v Juventus 21/2/1962
129,690 Real Madrid v AC Milan 19/4/1956
127,621 Real Madrid v Eintracht Frankfurt 18/5/1960 (Hampden)
125,000 Real Madrid v Manchester United 15/5/1968
120,000 Real Madrid v Manchester United 11/4/1957
120,000 Real Madrid v Fiorentina 30/5/1957
120,000 Real Madrid v Vasas Budapest 2/4/1958
120,000 Real Madrid v Atletico Madrid 7/5/1959
120,000 Real Madrid v Barcelona 21/4/1960
120,000 Real Madrid v AC Milan 291/1964
120,000 Real Madrid v Inter Milan 13/41966
120,000 Real Madrid v Ajax Amsterdam 11/10/1967
120,000 Real Madrid v Sparta Prague 6/3/1968
120,000 Real Madrid v Spartak Moscow 19/3/1981
120,000 Real Madrid v Inter Milan 8/4/1981
120,000 Barcelona v Juventus 5/3/1986
120,000 Barcelona v IFK Gothenburg 16/4/1986
120,000 Benfica v Steaua Bucharest 20/4/1988
115,000 Real Madrid v Porto 7/11/1979
115,000 Barcelona v Benfica 15/4/1991
111,000 Real Madrid v Bayern Munich 31/3/1976
110,000 Real Madrid v Nice 14/2/1957
110,000 Atletico Madrid v Schalke 04 4/3/1959 (Bernabeu)
110,000 Real Madrid v Standard Liege 22/3/1962
110,000 Real Madrid v Zurich 7/51964
110,000 Real Madrid v Anderlecht 9/3/1966
110,000 Real Madrid v Ajax Amsterdam 25/4/1973
110,000 Dinamo Kiev v Bayern Munich 16/3/1977
110,000 Real Madrid v Celtic 19/3/1980
110,000 Real Madrid v Hamburg 9/4/1980
110,000 Benfica v Olympique Marseilles 18/4/1990
107,000 Dinamo Kiev v Celtic 5/11/1986
105,532 Real Madrid v Partizan Belgrade 25/12/1955
102,000 Dinamo Kiev v Borussia Munchengladbach 6/4/1977
102,000 Spartak Moscow v Napoli 7/11/1990
100,067 Dinamo Kiev v Porto 22/4/1987
100,000 Real Madrid v Rapid Vienna 1/11/1956
100,000 Real Madrid v Rapid Vienna 13/12/1956
100,000 Vasas Budapest v Real Madrid 16/4/1958
100,000 Real Madrid v Nice 2/3/1960
100,000 Real Madrid v Dukla Prague 18/11/1964
100,000 Real Madrid v Benfica 17/3/1965
100,000 Red Star Belgrade v Carl Zeiss Jena 24/3/1971
100,000 Red Star Belgrade v Panathinaikos 14/4/1971
100,000 Dinamo Kiev v Gornik Zabrze 25/10/1972
100,000 Barcelona v Leeds United 23/4/1975
100,000 Real Madrid v Juventus 22/10/1986
100,000 Dinamo Kiev v Besiktas 18/3/1987
100,000 Real Madrid v Red Star Belgrade 18/3/1987
100,000 Real Madrid v Bayern Munich 22/4/1987
100,000 Dinamo Kiev v Rangers 16/9/1987
100,000 Benfica v Anderlecht 2/3/1988
100,000 Spartak Moscow v Real Madrid 6/3/1991
98,000 Dinamo Kiev v Beroe Staroe Zagora 1/10/1986
97,000 AC Milan v Steaua Bucharest 24/5/1989 (Camp Nou, Barcelona)
95,149 Real Madrid v Derby County 5/11/1975
95,000 Inter Milan v Real Madrid 22/4/1981
95,000 Barcelona v Porto 23/10/1985
95,000 Real Madrid v Bayern Munich 16/3/1988
95,000 Real Madrid v PSV Eindhoven 15/3/1989
95,000 Real Madrid v AC Milan 5/4/1989
95,000 Spartak Moscow v Olympique Marseilles 10/4/1991
93,800 Dinamo Kiev v Grasshoppers Zurich 29/9/1982
92,500 Liverpool v Bruges 10/5/1978 (Wembley)
92,225 Manchester United v Benfica 29/6/1968 (Wembley)
91,800 Real Madrid v Spartak Moscow 20/3/1991
90,000 Real Madrid v Wiener Sportklub 18/3/1959
90,000 Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/11/1960
90,000 Barcelona v Hamburg 12/4/1961
90,000 Vasas Budapest v Real Madrid 6/9/1961
90,000 Real Madrid v Anderlecht 5/9/1962
90,000 Real Madrid v Rangers 9/10/1963
90,000 Real Madrid v Dinamo Bucharest 18/12/1963
90,000 Real Madrid v Hvidovre 29/11/1967
90,000 Real Madrid v Rapid Vienna 4/12/1968
90,000 Dinamo Tbilisi v Liverpool 3/10/1979
90,000 Dinamo Tbilisi v Hamburg 7/11/1979
90,000 Red Star Belgrade v Basle 5/11/1980
90,000 Red Star Belgrade v Real Madrid 4/3/1987
90,000 Real Madrid v PSV Eindhoven 6/4/1988
90,000 Porto v Bayern Munich 20/3/1991
89,806 Red Star Belgrade v Anderlecht 17/3/1982
89,484 Ajax Amsterdam v Juventus 30/5/1973 (Red Star Stadium, Belgrade)
89,089 Gornik Zabrze v FK Austria 18/9/1963
89,000 Inter Milan v Benfica 27/5/1965
88,934 Real Madrid v Inter Milan 1/3/1967
88,500 Red Star Belgrade v AC Milan 9/11/1988 (abandoned)
88,500 Red Star Belgrade v AC Milan 10/11/1988
88,000 Red Star Belgrade v Inter Milan 18/3/1981
85,956 Real Madrid v Borussia Munchengladbach 17/3/1976
85,744 Celtic v Ajax Amsterdam 24/3/1971 (Hampden)
85,000 Dinamo Bucharest v Galatasaray 26/8/1956
85,000 Rangers v St Etienne 4/9/1957
85,000 Rangers v AC Milan 27/11/1957
85,000 Spartak Moscow v Basle 16/9/1970
85,000 Red Star Belgrade v Ujpest Dosza 30/9/1970
85,000 Real Madrid v Dinamo Kiev 21/3/1973
85,000 Inter Milan v Universitatea Craiova 17/9/1980
85,000 Red Star Belgrade v Panathinaikos 17/9/1986
85,000 Porto v Dinamo Kiev 8/4/1987
85,000 Porto v Real Madrid 4/11/1987
84,561 Borussia Munchengladbach v Inter Milan 1/12/1971 Olympic Stadium Berlin
84,358 Real Madrid v Barcelona 9/11/1960
84,238 Dinamo Kiev v Fiorentina 12/11/1969
83,231 Napoli v Real Madrid 30/9/1987
83,179 Ajax Amsterdam v Panathinaikos 2/6/1971 (Wembley)
82,783 Real Madrid v AC Milan 1/11/1989
82,587 Rangers v Sparta Rotterdam 16/3/1960
82,500 AC Milan v Olympique Marseilles 6/3/1991
82,500 Red Star Belgrade v Dinamo Dresden 6/3/1991
82,000 Barcelona v Sparta Prague 27/11/1991
81,215 Rangers v Real Madrid 25/9/1963
80,050 AC Milan v Manchester United 23/4/1969
80,000 Atletico Madrid v CDNA (CSKA) Sofia 5/11/1958 (Bernabeu)
80,000 Wiener Sportklub v Real Madrid 4/3/1959
80,000 Barcelona v CDNA (CSKA) Sofia 23/9/1959
80,000 Rangers v Red Star Bratislava 11/11/1959
80,000 Barcelona v Wolverhampton Wanderers 10/2/1960
80,000 Barcelona v Real Madrid 27/4/1960
80,000 Real Madrid v Feyenoord 22/9/1965
80,000 Real Madrid v Kilmarnock 1/12/1965
80,000 Real Madrid v TSV Munich 30/11/1966
80,000 Real Madrid v Standard Liege 3/12/1969
80,000 Red Star Belgrade v Borussia Munchengladbach 19/10/1977
80,000 Benfica v Liverpool 1/3/1978
80,000 Spartak Moscow v Real Madrid 4/3/1981 (Tbilisi)
80,000 Inter Milan v Red Star Belgrade 4/3/1981
80,000 Dinamo Bucharest v Aston Villa 20/10/1982
80,000 Olympiako Piraeus v Ajax Amsterdam 14/9/1983
80,000 Porto v TJ Vitkovice 5/11/1986
80,000 Barcelona v Kaiserslautern 23/10/1991
80,000 Benfica v Arsenal 23/10/1991
80,000 Benfica v Barcelona 11/12/1991
78,872 Rangers v Inter Milan 3/3/1965
78,833 FK Austria v Benfica 31/10/1961
78,426 Ujpest Dosza v Bayern Munich 10/4/1974
78,000 Real Madrid v Stade De Reims 3/6/1959 (Neckerstadion, Stuttgart)
78,000 CSKA Sofia v Ajax Amsterdam 8/11/1972
78,000 Bayern Munich v Real Madrid 14/4/1976
78,000 Panathinaikos v IFK Gothenburg 20/3/1985
78,000 Barcelona v Hansa Rostock 18/9/1991
77,669 Rangers v Red Star Belgrade 2/9/1964
77,649 Gornik Zabrze v Manchester United 13/3/1968
77,379 Gornik Zabrze v Dukla Prague 20/9/1964
77,240 Celtic v Fiorentina 4/3/1970
76,796 Real Madrid v Sevilla 23/1/1958
76,788 Inter Milan v Borussia Dortmund 29/4/1964
76,730 Rangers v Standard Liege 14/2/1962
76,601 Inter Milan v Liverpool 12/5/1965
76,500 Red Star Belgrade v Bayern Munich 24/4/1991
76,415 Celtic v AC Milan 12/3/1969
76,404 Gornik Zabrze v Dukla Prague 13/11/1963
75,991 Inter Milan v Real Madrid 20/4/1966
75,618 Moscow Torpedo v Inter Milan 12/10/1966
75,568 Manchester United v Borussia Dortmund 17/10/1956 (Maine Road)
75,537 Olympiako Piraeus v Benfica 19/10/1983
75,223 Olympiakos Piraeus v Hamburg 3/10/1982
75,206 Dinamo Kiev v FK Austria 1/10/1969
75,000 Hamburg v Barcelona 26/4/1961
75,000 Benfica v Manchester United 9/3/1966
75,000 Bayern Munich v Dinamo Kiev 2/3/1977
75,000 Bayern Munich v Liverpool 22/4/1981
75,000 Real Madrid v Young Boys Berne 1/10/1986
75,000 Bayern Munich v Real Madrid 8/4/1987
74,908 Benfica v Feyenoord 8/5/1963
74,894 Celtic v Benfica 12/11/1969
74,500 Bayern Munich v Benfica 17/3/1976
74,406 Celtic v Dukla Prague 12/4/1967
74,194 Bayern Munich v Ajax Amsterdam 21/3/1973
74,117 Vasas Budapest v Dundalk 11/10/1967
74,000 Hamburg v Burnley 15/3/1961
73,993 AC Milan v Dundee 24/4/1963
73,991 Panathinaikos v Feyenoord 3/10/1984
73,724 Celtic v Inter Milan 19/4/1972
73,500 Hamburg v Juventus 25/5/1983 (Olympic Stadium, Athens)
73,112 AC Milan v Real Madrid 19/4/1989
73,059 Celtic v St Etienne 2/10/1968
72,919 Bayern Munich v St Etienne 23/4/1975
72,628 Bayern Munich v Ujpest Dosza 24/4/1974
72,461 Celtic v Atletico Madrid 10/4/1974
72,333 Inter Milan v AEK Athens 15/9/1971
72,245 Real Madrid v Antwerp 28/11/1957
72,000 Eintracht Frankfurt v Rangers 13/4/1960
72,000 Olympiakos Piraeus v Osters Vaxjo 15/9/1982
71,333 Inter Milan v Real Madrid 27/5/1964 (Prater, Vienna)
71,316 AC Milan v Red Star Belgrade 26/10/1988
71,307 AC Milan v Bruges 24/10/1990
71,207 AC Milan v Werder Bremen 15/3/1989
71,180 Juventus v Barcelona 19/3/1986
71,145 Gornok Zabrze v Dinamo Kiev
71,000 Celtic v Basle 20/3/1974
71,000 Torino v Borussia Munchengladbach 20/10/1976
71,000 Napoli v Spartak Moscow 24/10/1990
70,827 Barcelona v Sampdoria 20/5/1992 (Wembley)
70,559 Celtic v Ujpest Dosza 22/3/1972
70,491 AC Milan v Real Madrid 13/2/1964
70,425 Ferencvaros v Inter Milan 2/3/1966
70,370 Juventus v Standard Liege 3/11/1982
70,000 Manchester United v Athletic Bilbao 6/2/1957 (Maine Road)
70,000 Fiorentina v Red Star Belgrade 18/4/1957
70,000 Vasas Budapest v Ajax Amsterdam 26/2/1958
70,000 Barcelona v AC Milan 25/11/1959
70,000 Barcelona v Spartak Hradec Kralove 8/3/1961
70,000 Real Madrid v Vasas Budapest 20/9/1961
70,000 Real Madrid v Odense 14/10/1964
70,000 Bayern Munich v Galatasaray 27/9/1972
70,000 Gornik Zabrze v Dinamo Kiev 8/11/1972
70,000 Bayern Munich v CSKA Sofia 5/3/1974
70,000 CSKA Sofia v Bayern Munich 20/3/1974
70,000 Ararat Erevan v Bayern Munich 19/3/1975
70,000 Benfica v Bayern Munich 3/3/1976
70,000 CSKA Sofia v St Etienne 15/9/1976
70,000 Partizan Belgrade v Dinamo Kiev 29/91976
70,000 Borussia Munchengladbach v Dinamo Kiev 20/4/1977 (Rheinstadion, Dusseldorf)
70,000 Levski Spartak v Ajax Amsterdam 19/10/1977
70,000 Atletico Madrid v Bruges 15/3/1978
70,000 Juventus v Bruges 29/3/1978
70,000 Real Madrid v Progres Niedercorn 13/9/1978
70,000 AC Milan v Porto 3/10/1979
70,000 CSKA Sofia v Nottingham Forest 17/9/1980
70,000 CSKA Sofia v Bayern Munich 7/4/1982
70,000 Dinamo Bucharest V Valerengen 25/8/1982
70,000 Dinamo Bucharest v Hamburg 19/10/1983
70,000 Dinamo Bucharest v Dinamo Minsk 21/3/1984
70,000 Benfica v Liverpool 21/3/1984
70,000 Bayern Munich v Real Madrid 2/3/1988
70,000 Galatasaray v Monaco 15/3/1989 (Mungersdorfer, Cologne)
70,000 Benfica v Dnipr Dnipropetrovsk 7/3/1990
70,000 Barcelona v Dinamo Kiev 18/3/1992
69,836 Inter Milan v Celtic 5/4/1972
69,735 Benfica v Juventus 9/51968
69,423 Rangers v Anderlecht 16/9/1959
69,272 Rapid Vienna v Rangers 8/12/1964
69,193 Roma v Liverpool 30/5/1984
69,012 Benfica v Feyenoord 22/3/1972
69,000 Rangers v Eintracht Frankfurt 5/5/1960
69,000 Juventus v Celtic 30/9/1981
69,000 Roma v IFK Gothenburg 14/9/1983
68,532 Dinamo Kiev v Celtic 4/10/1967
68,359 AC Milan v Real Madrid 18/10/1989
68,060 Roma v Dundee United 25/4/1984
68,000 Juventus v Grasshoppers Zurich 24/10/1984
67,734 Dinamo Kiev v Olympiakos Piraeus 1/10/1975
67,501 Rangers v Monaco 12/9/1961

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Post by Scottish » Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:30 am

1992-2011

114,700 Barcelona v Paris St Germain 1/3/1995
114,432 Barcelona v Manchester United 2/11/1994
100,000 Dinamo Kiev v Newcastle United 1/10/1997
100,000 Dinamo Kiev v Barcelona 22/101997
100,000 Dinamo Kiev v Juventus 18/3/1998
98,436 Barcelona v Chelsea 7/3/2006
98,000 Barcelona v AC Milan 26/9/2000
98,000 Barcelona v Real Madrid 23/4/2002
96,249 Barcelona v Chelsea 18/4/2000
96,214 Barcelona v Inter Milan 28/4/2010
95,949 Barcelona v Manchester United 23/4/2008
95,824 Barcelona v Werder Bremen 5/12/2006
95,701 Barcelona v Real Madrid 3/5/2011
95,661 Barcelona v AC Milan 26/4/2006
95,486 Barcelona v Arsenal 8/3/2011
95,231 Barcelona v Chelsea 28/4/2009
95,000 Barcelona v Porto 27/4/1994
95,000 Barcelona v Juventus 22/4/1993
94,682 Barcelona v AC Milan 2/11/2004
93,641 Barcelona v Liverpool 21/2/2007
93,524 Barcelona v Inter Milan 24/11/2009
93,330 Barcelona v Arsenal 6/4/2010
93,219 Barcelona v Bayern Munich 8/4/2009
93,000 Dinamo Kiev v Spartak Moscow 14/9/1994
90,838 Barcelona v Leeds United 13/9/2000
90,245 Manchester United v Bayern Munich 26/5/1999 (Camp Nou, Barcelona)
90,199 Barcelona v Chelsea 31/102006
89,875 Barcelona v Benfica 5/4/2006
89,000 Barcelona v Monaco 8/12/1993
89,000 Barcelona v Chelsea 23/2/2005
88,600 Barcelona v Dinamo Kiev 29/9/1993
88,543 Barcelona v Stuttgart 17/3/2010
87,754 Barcelona v Arsenal 29/9/1999
87,695 Barcelona v Manchester United 28/5/2011 (Wembley)
87,600 Barcelona v FK Austria 20/101993
86,847 Barcelona v Shakhtar Donetsk 6/4/2011
86,368 Barcelona v Olympique Lyons 11/3/2009
86,000 Real Madrid v Juventus 6/3/1996
85,377 Barcelona v Valencia 10/5/2000
85,000 Barcelona v Galatasaray 30/3/1994
85,000 Dinamo Kiev v Panathinaikos 13/9/1995 (Kiev expelled for attempted bribery)
85,000 Real Madrid v Bayer Leverkusen 18/3/1998
85,000 Real Madrid v Borussia Dortmund 1/4/1998
85,000 Barcelona v Bayern Munich 4/11/1998
83,300 Barcelona v Bruges 18/9/2002
82,893 Dinamo Kiev v Inter Milan 10/12/2003
82,893 Dinamo Kiev v Bayer Leverkusen 28/9/2004
82,887 Barcelona v Rangers 7/11/2007
82,750 Dinamo Kiev v Arsenal 21/102003
82,717 Barcelona v Inter Milan 18/2/2003
82,000 Dinamo Kiev v Bayern Munich 7/4/1999
82,000 Barcelona v Panathinaikos 9/4/2002
81,879 AC Milan v Arsenal 4/3/2008
81,500 Dinamo Kiev v Real Madrid 17/3/1999
80,354 Real Madrid v Arsenal 21/2/2006
80,300 Real Madrid v Bayern Munich 20/2/2007
80,246 Lazio v Real Madrid 3/10/2007
80,018 Inter Milan v Manchester United 24/2/2009
80,000 Dinamo Kiev v Rapid Vienna 21/8/1996
80,000 Barcelona v PSV Eindhoven 1/10/1997
80,000 Dinamo Kiev v PSV Eindhoven 27/11/1997
80,000 Real Madrid v Barcelona 1/5/2002
80,000 AC Milan v Inter Milan 6/4/2005
80,000 Real Madrid v AC Milan 30/9/2009
79,945 AC Milan v Barcelona 18/10/2000
79,855 AC Milan v Paris St Germain 19/4/1995
79,528 Inter Milan v Manchester United 17/3/1999
79,500 Dinamo Kiev v Lokomotiv Moscow 17/9/2003
79,500 Barcelona v Arsenal 17/5/2006 (Stade De France, Paris)
79,103 AC Milan v Manchester United 8/3/2005
79,000 Inter Milan v AC Milan 12/4/2005
79,000 Inter Milan v Barcelona 20/4/2010
78,971 Inter Milan v Chelsea 24/2/2010
78,894 AC Milan v Olympique Lyons 4/4/2006
78,829 Inter Milan v Real Madrid 25/11/1998
78,759 Real Madrid v Valencia 24/5/2000 (Stade De France, Paris)
78,677 Real Madrid v Olympique Lyons 21/11/2006
78,650 AC Milan v Monaco 27/4/1994
78,587 AC Milan v Manchester United 16/2/2010
78,400 Barcelona v Spartak Moscow 16/3/1994
78,175 AC Milan v Inter Milan 7/5/2003
78,000 Real Madrid v AC Milan 12/3/2003
78,000 Real Madrid v Bayern Munich 10/3/2004
78,000 Dinamo Kiev v Real Madrid 19/10/2004
78,000 Real Madrid v Juventus 22/2/2005
78,000 Real Madrid v Barcelona 27/4/2011
77,433 Panathinaikos v Ajax Amsterdam 17/4/1996
77,000 Spartak Moscow v Inter Milan 4/11/1998
77,000 Spartak Moscow v Real Madrid 7/11/2000
76,883 AC Milan v Barcelona 18/4/2006
76,854 Inter Milan v AC Milan 13/5/2003
76,689 Barcelona v Olympique Lyons 19/11/2007
76,600 Dinamo Kiev v Arsenal 4/11/1998
76,502 AC Milan v Barcelona 20/10/2004
76,357 AC Milan v Real Madrid 3/11/2010
76,300 Real Madrid v Galatasaray 18/4/2001
76,104 Lille v Benfica 22/11/2005 (Stade De France, Paris)
76,079 AC Milan v Ajax Amsterdam 23/4/2003
76,000 Barcelona v Galatasaray 14/9/1994
76,000 Barcelona v IFK Gothenburg 7/12/1994
76,000 Dinamo Kiev v Juventus 13/11/2002
76,000 Inter Milan v Barcelona 16/9/2009
75,925 Inter Milan v Bayern Munich 23/2/2011
75,852 Barcelona v FC Copenhagen 20/10/2010
75,777 AC Milan v Real Madrid 26/11/2002
75,652 AC Milan v Tottenham Hotspur 15/2/2011
75,611 AC Milan v Bayern Munich 23/10/2002
75,600 Real Madrid v Bayern Munich 1/5/2001
75,521 Manchester United v Olympique Lyons 4/3/2008
75,362 Barcelona v Liverpool 13/3/2002
75,328 Real Madrid v Bayern Munich 10/4/2002
75,326 Barcelona v Celtic 4/3/2008
75,182 Manchester United v Lille 7/3/2007
75,162 Manchester United v Sporting Lisbon 27/11/2007
75,092 AC Milan v Real Madrid 3/11/2009
75,061 Manchester United v Barcelona 29/4/2008
75,017 Manchester United v Dinamo Kiev 7/11/2007
75,000 Olympiakos Piraeus v Porto 17/9/1997
75,000 Olympiakos Piraeus v Porto 25/11/1998
75,000 Spartak Moscow v Arsenal 22/11/2000
75,000 Real Madrid v Lokomotiv Moscow 11/12/2002
75,000 Real Madrid v Manchester United 8/4/2003
75,000 Roma v Olympique Lyons 21/2/2007
75,000 Roma v Manchester United 3/4/2007
75,000 Spartak Moscow v Chelsea 19/10/2010
74,955 Manchester United v Benfica 6/12/2006
74,954 Inter Milan v Barcelona 22/5/2010 (Bernabeu, Madrid)
74,944 Manchester United v Villarreal 17/9/2008
74,871 Real Madrid v Bayern Munich 3/5/2000
74,855 AC Milan v Chelsea 26/10/1999
74,769 Manchester United v Inter Milan 11/3/2009
74,730 Barcelona v Udinese 27/9/2005
74,687 Manchester United v Schalke 04 4/5/2011
74,672 Manchester United v Chelsea 12/4/2011
74,655 AC Milan v PSV Eindhoven 26/4/2005
74,655 Manchester United v Celtic 21/10/2008
74,595 Manchester United v AC Milan 10/3/2010
74,517 Manchester United v Porto 7/4/2009
74,517 Manchester United v Arsenal 29/4/2009
74,513 Manchester United v Valencia 7/12/2010
74,482 Manchester United v Bayern Munich 7/4/2010
74,476 Manchester United v Roma 10/4/2007
74,423 Manchester United v Roma 9/4/2008
74,408 Manchester United v Rangers 14/9/2010
74,382 Manchester United v Aalborg 10/12/2008
74,242 Manchester United v Besiktas 25/11/2009
74,119 Barcelona v Celtic 24/11/2004
74,084 Panathinaikos v Legia Warsaw 20/3/1996
74,037 Manchester United v Wolfsburg 30/9/2009
74,031 Manchester United v Celtic 13/9/2006
74,000 Real Madrid v Juventus 6/5/2003
74,000 AC Milan v Liverpool 23/5/2007 (Olympic Stadium, Athens)
73,996 Manchester United v Olympique Marseilles 15/3/2011
73,820 Manchester United v AC Milan 24/4/2007
73,718 Manchester United v CSKA Moscow 3/11/2009
73,652 Manchester United v Roma 2/10/2007
73,537 Olympiakos Piraeus v Manchester United 10/10/2001
73,455 Arsenal v Panathinaikos 30/9/1998 (Wembley)
73,336 Arsenal v Fiorentina 27/10/1999 (Wembley)
73,256 Arsenal v Dinamo Kiev 21/10/1998 (Wembley)
73,250 Olympiakos Piraeus v Ajax Amsterdam 21/10/1998
73,207 Arsenal v Lens 25/11/1998 (Wembley)
73,091 Arsenal v Barcelona 19/10/1999 (Wembley)
72,960 AC Milan v Ajax Amsterdam 8/12/2010
72,770 Inter Milan v Schalke 04 5/4/2011
72,610 Manchester United v Bursaspor 20/10/2010
72,500 Real Madrid v Lazio 13/2/2001
72,300 Olympique Marseilles v AC Milan 26/5/1993 (Olympic Stadium, Munich)
72,113 Barcelona v Schalke 04 9/4/2008
72,038 AC Milan v Lokomotiv Moscow 19/2/2003
72,035 Real Madrid v Roma 30/10/2002
72,020 Manchester United v FC Copenhagen 17/10/2006
72,000 Real Madrid v Ajax Amsterdam 22/11/1995
72,000 Real Madrid v Bayern Munich 29/2/2000
72,000 Barcelona v Roma 20/2/2002
71,878 Roma v Real Madrid 11/9/2001
71,740 Inter Milan v Barcelona 26/2/2003
71,657 Real Madrid v AC Milan 19/10/2010
71,657 Real Madrid v Tottenham Hotspur 5/4/2011
71,579 Real Madrid v Liverpool 25/2/2008
71,569 Real Madrid v Roma 5/3/2008
71,569 Real Madrid v Olympique Lyons 10/3/2010
71,560 Real Madrid v Juventus 5/11/2008
71,520 Hertha Berlin v Galatasaray 26/10/1999
71,501 Inter Milan v Liverpool 11/3/2008
71,500 Barcelona v Porto 1/3/2000
71,500 Bayern Munich v Valencia 23/5/2001 (San Siro, Milan)
71,227 Arsenal v Aik Stockholm 22/9/1999 (Wembley)
71,130 Roma v Real Madrid 17/9/2002
71,032 AC Milan v Bayern Munich 8/3/2006
71,022 Olympiakos Piraeus v Juventus 17/3/1999
71,000 Inter Milan v Porto 15/3/2005
70,800 Olympiakos Piraeus v Real Madrid 15/9/1999
70,559 Real Madrid v Lazio 11/12/2007
70,500 AC Milan v Borussia Dortmund 18/3/2003
70,459 AC Milan v Lens 18/9/2002
70,103 AC Milan v Deportivo La Coruna 13/3/2001
70,034 Real Madrid v Olympique Lyons 16/3/2011
70,000 Dinamo Kiev v Paris St Germain 19/10/1994
70,000 Barcelona v Brondby 30/9/1998
70,000 Real Madrid v Borussia Dortmund 19/2/2003
69,869 Roma v Barcelona 26/2/2002
69,763 AC Milan v PSV Eindhoven 19/10/2005
69,738 Barcelona v Panathinaikos 14/9/2010
69,552 Manchester United v Chelsea (Luzhniki Stadium, Moscow)
69,500 Bayern Munich v Real Madrid 7/3/2007
69,486 Barcelona v Fiorentina 22/9/1999
69,398 Inter Milan v CSKA Moscow 30/3/2010
69,369 Real Madrid v Ajax Amsterdam 15/9/2010
69,327 Real Madrid v Monaco 23/4/2004
69,317 AC Milan v Auxerre 15/9/2010
69,053 Real Madrid v Rosenborg Trondheim 19/102005
69,048 Olympiakos Piraeus v Olympique Lyons 20/9/2000
69,000 Real Madrid v Steaua Bucharest 1/11/2006
68,300 Borussia Dortmund v AC Milan 11/12/2002
68,221 Barcelona v Dinamo Kiev 29/9/2009
68,000 Real Madrid v Dinamo Kiev 26/9/2006
67,867 Real Madrid v Zurich 25/11/2009
67,800 Dinamo Kiev v Lazio 2/11/1999
67,650 Barcelona v Manchester United 25/11/1998
67,500 Real Madrid v Wisla Krakow 24/8/2004
67,500 AC Milan v Bayern Munich 3/4/2007
67,500 AC Milan v Manchester United 2/5/2007
67,471 Manchester United v Villarreal 22/11/2005
67,389 AC Milan v Porto 17/3/1993

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Re: Ex Rangers players now managers

Post by Scottish » Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:50 pm

The Cup-Winners Cup was always the poor relation as far as attendances were concerned but even here we find 69 games with bigger crowds than Man Utd-Ajax. That gives a total of 647 European matches with higher attendances prior to the start of this season. We won't know what position the United crowd will occupy until the end of the term but it won't be in the top 650, that's for sure, as many of this season's CL games (not least United's own three home matches) will have drawn larger attendances than the one last week. And who knows, they may even beat their own record yet. You could argue that the Europa League is also a continuation of the ECWC as when that competition was abolished, the place for entrants was grafted on to the UEFA Cup.

Cup-Winners Cup crowds larger than 67,328

125,000 Real Madrid v Red Star Belgrade 6/3/1975
120,000 Benfica v Dukla Prague 19/3/1986
110,000 Barcelona v Juventus 10/4/1991
100,066 Barcelona v Standard Liege 12/5/1982
100,062 Dinamo Kiev v Utrecht 2/10/1985
100,062 Dinamo Kiev v Universitatea Craiova 23/10/1985
100,000 Gornik Zabrze v Levski Sofia (Chorzow) 18/3/1970
100,000 Red Star Belgrade v Real Madrid 19/3/1975
100,000 Dinamo Kiev v PSV Eindhoven 9/4/1975
100,000 Red Star Belgrade v Ferencvaros 23/4/1975
100,000 Dinamo Tbilisi v Cardiff City 29/9/1976
100,000 Barcelona v Ipswich Town 21/3/1979
100,000 Barcelona v Beveren Waas 11/4/1979
100,000 Dinamo Kiev v Rapid Vienna 19/3/1986
100,000 Dinamo Kiev v Dukla Prague 2/4/1986
100,000 Barcelona v Fiorentina 10/4/1997
98,000 Barcelona v Anderlecht 1/11/1978
97,974 West Ham United v TSV Munich 1860 (Wembley)
96,000 Dinamo Kiev v Barcelona 6/3/1991
94,000 Barcelona v Manchester United 7/3/1984
92,500 Benfica v Sampdoria 23/10/1985
90,000 Gornik Zabrze v Roma 15/4/1970 (Chorzow)
90,000 Gornik Zabrze v Manchester City 10/3/1971 (Chorzow)
90,000 Napoli v Anderlecht 6/4/1977
90,000 Dinamo Tbilisi v West Ham United 18/3/1981
90,000 Barcelona v Dukla Prague 4/11/1981
88,600 Dinamo Tbilisi v Standard Liege 7/4/1982
86,159 Barcelona v Anderlecht 1/11/1989
86,130 Atletico Madrid v Nuremburg 24/4/1963 (Bernabeu)
85,000 Real Madrid v Inter Milan 16/3/1983
80,000 Rangers v Fiorentina 17/5/1961
80,000 Rangers v Tottenham Hotspur 11/12/1962
80,000 Rangers v Bayern Munich 19/4/1972
80,000 Moscow Torpedo v Rapid Vienna 3/9/1969
80,000 Roma v Gornik Zabrze 1/4/1970
80,000 Dinamo Tbilisi v MTK Budapest 20/10/1976
80,000 Roma v Carl Zeiss Jena 17/9/1980
80,000 Benfica v Fortuna Dusseldorf 18/3/1981
80,000 Dinamo Tbilisi v Feyenoord 8/4/1981
80,000 Benfica v Carl Zeiss Jena 22/4/1981
80,000 Dinamo Tbilisi v Bastia 4/11/1981
80,000 Dinamo Tbilisi v Legia Warsaw 17/3/1982
80,000 Barcelona v Tottenham Hotspur 21/4/1982
80,000 Red Star Belgrade v Barcelona 20/10/1982
80,000 Benfica v Bordeaux 22/10/1986
80,000 Benfica v Bayer Leverkusen 1/3/1994
79,229 Rangers v Wolverhampton Wanderers 29/3/1961
76,446 Celtic v Liverpool 14/4/1966
75,248 Inter Milan v Real Madrid 2/3/1983
75,000 Rangers v Torino 22/3/1972
75,000 Dinamo Kiev v CSKA Sofia 18/9/1974
75,000 FK Austria v Moscow Dynamo 12/4/1978
75,000 Barcelona v Valencia 5/3/1980
73,000 Lokomotiv Leipzig v Bordeaux 22/4/1987
73,000 Barcelona v Red Star Belgrade 17/10/1996
72,000 Gornik Zabrze v Rangers 12/11/1969 (Chorzow)
71,926 Dinamo Kiev v Bursaspor 19/3/1975
71,000 Rangers v Slavia Sofia 3/5/1967
70,158 AC Milan v Bayern Munich 1/5/1968
70,000 Benfica v PSV Eindhoven 19/3/1975
70,000 Ararat Erevan v West Ham United 22/10/1975
70,000 Benfica v Malmo 5/11/1980
70,000 Real Madrid v FK Austria 20/4/1983
70,000 Juventus v Barcelona 24/4/1991
70,000 Benfica v Parma 29/3/1994
70,000 Panathinaikos v Bruges 3/11/1994
70,000 Red Star Belgrade v Kaiserslautern 26/9/1996
69,480 Bayern Munich v Rangers 31/5/1967 (Nuremburg)
68,500 Lokomotiv Leipzig v Barcelona 3/3/1982

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Re: Ex Rangers players now managers

Post by Scottish » Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:28 pm

Looking at those figures by club.....

115 Real Madrid
98 Barcelona
45 AC Milan
39 Dinamo Kiev
33 Inter Milan
32 Manchester United
26 Benfica
25 Red Star Belgrade
19 Rangers
16 Dinamo Tbilisi
14 Bayern Munich
12 Celtic, Olympiakos Piraeus, Roma, Spartak Moscow
10 Gornik Zabrze, Juventus, Panathinaikos
8 Napoli
6 Arsenal, Lokomotiv Leipzig, Sporting Lisbon
5 CSKA Sofia, Dinamo Bucharest, Ferencvaros, Vasas Budapest
4 Atletico Madrid, Porto
3 Stuttgart
2 Ararat Erevan, FK Austria, Borussia Munchengladbach, Hamburg, Hertha Berlin, Lazio, Levski Sofia, Moscow Torpedo, Torino
1 Borussia Dortmund, Eintracht Frankfurt, Fiorentina, Galatasaray, GKS Katowice, Lille, Partizan Belgrade, Rapid Bucharest, Rapid Vienna, Ruch Chorzow, Schalke 04, Ujpest Dosza, Wiener SK

Also 19 neutral finals as follows: England 5, Germany 3, Spain 3, France 2, Austria, Greece, Italy, Russia, Scotland, Yugoslavia 1

And by country.......

220 Spain
114 Italy
43 England
39 Ukraine*
36 Portugal
35 Germany (including six from former East Germany)
32 Scotland
27 Serbia (all former Yugoslavia's high gates were played in what is now Serbia)
23 Greece
16 Georgia*
15 Russia*
12 Poland
11 Hungary
7 Bulgaria
6 Romania
5 Austria
3 France
2 Armenia*
1 Turkey (played in Germany and not included in German total)

* parts of former USSR which was third highest at time of dissolution

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