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John McFarlane

Post by J.S.Norway » Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:26 pm

He played for Aberdeen (1926-29), Liverpool (1928-30), Halifax (1930-32), Northampton (1932-33), Kidderminster, Darlington (1935-37), Worcester and Bath. Reported that he was born in Shettleston, Glasgow. Can somebody please help with when he was born? Maybe 1905 or 1907?

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Re: John McFarlane

Post by bluedragon » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:49 am

J.S.Norway wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:26 pm
He played for Aberdeen (1926-29), Liverpool (1928-30), Halifax (1930-32), Northampton (1932-33), Kidderminster, Darlington (1935-37), Worcester and Bath. Reported that he was born in Shettleston, Glasgow. Can somebody please help with when he was born? Maybe 1905 or 1907?

I have also been trying to find this player’s date of birth.

All sources I have seen show Shettleston as his place of birth. When he signed for Halifax Town in July 1930 the newspapers said that he was 25 years of age at the time. Using those two pieces of information there are only two John McFarlanes that come close to matching.

1) John Douglas McFarlane was born on 22 September 1905 at 7 Trainard Terrace, Tollcross, Glasgow and registered in the district of Shettleston. He would have been 24 years of age and one month off his 25th birthday at the time of the newspaper article.

2) John McFarlane was born on 13 July 1907 at 89 Watson Parade, Tollcross, Glasgow and registered in the district of Shettleston. He would have just been 23 years of age at the time of the newspaper article.

Even if the place where his birth was registered (Shettleston) is correct newspapers were not always accurate when quoting ages and were more prone to take years off than adding a month on. However, I pursued John Douglas McFarlane as he was the closest to the information I had. He was married on 3 June 1927 in Glasgow but his surname was recorded as “MacFarlane”. At this time he was on Aberdeen’s books. However, on the marriage record he gives his profession as “Tannery labourer” and his usual residence as 95 Albyre Street, Glasgow. Is it possible that he was part-time at Aberdeen as he was not a first team regular and was living in digs in the city. That might account for the job entry and using his family address in the marriage record. He was put on the open to transfer list by Bath City at the end of the 1938/39 season and then returned to Scotland. He died in 1981 and the records give his surname as “MacFarlane”.

He was playing for Shawfield Juniors in the 1924/25 & 1925/26 season and one record says he was at Cambuslang Rangers the season before. This perhaps suggests that it the older (1907) John McFarlane.

The excellent Aberdeen FC heritage website (afcheritage.net) gives his date of birth as 24 December 1911 but I think this would make him too young to have been playing Junior football in 1923/24.

Do you have any other clues that might help?
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Re: John McFarlane

Post by J.S.Norway » Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:11 pm

Thank you again bluedragon.
I agree that newspapers was not accurate about facts than.

I have some arguments for the John McFarlane born 1907.
I see that John Douglas McFarlane (1905) are on birth, marriage and death certificate.
But there are no Douglas or D. on any of his Football League registrations in England.

He was on transferlist 3 times in England.
Spring 1930 -age 23.
Spring 1932 -age 26.
Spring 1933 -age 25.

I was in contact with a family member of John Douglas McFarlane.
They had no information that he had played football.

Research can be very difficulty!!

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Re: John McFarlane

Post by J.S.Norway » Sun Mar 15, 2020 11:23 pm

Was there a max age to play for a junior club like Shawfield Juniors in 1924-26? Normally I would say a junior player is under 20.

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Re: John McFarlane

Post by bluedragon » Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:31 pm

J.S.Norway wrote:
Sun Mar 15, 2020 11:23 pm
Was there a max age to play for a junior club like Shawfield Juniors in 1924-26? Normally I would say a junior player is under 20.
Junior football did not refer to the ages of the players. "Junior" simply means that it ranked below Senior football.

As far as I am aware, but others will know more, there was only one age limit that applied in Junior football and it only affected players in Senior clubs who wanted to return to play in the Junior grade. So that would not have applied to John McFarlane who may have been playing for a local Juvenile club before stepping up to play for a Junior club.

This age limit started to apply in the 1920’s. The Scottish Junior Football Association (SJFA) gave an annual amnesty for Senior players to return. Later on a “reinstatement” rule applied where players had to apply individually to return and an upper age limit was applied. This was introduced to try and ensure that the only players reinstated were younger players who had perhaps a season at a Senior club and did not make the grade. It therefore prevented experienced Senior players returning to Junior football for the last couple of seasons of their careers. I believe the initial age limit was 21. It was increased to 25 at the SJFA 1939 AGM. In October 1939 it was increased to 28 as a temporary measure during the Second World War before reverting back to 25. I am not sure when that specific reinstatement rule was rescinded but it was still operating in the 1980’s although a more relaxed view was taken of applications than in the early days. Reinstatement still applies today but is a simpler process with a fee paid.

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Re: John McFarlane

Post by J.S.Norway » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:00 am

OK, Thank you!!

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