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Winning the Scottish Cup with three teams

Post by ScottishFA » Mon Apr 30, 2007 2:48 pm

Steven Pressley could win his third Scottish Cup medal on 26 May with Celtic, to add to those he won with Rangers (1993) and Hearts (last year).

Would he be the first player to do so with three different clubs?

The nearest I can find is James Oswald who won the cup with Third Lanark in 1889, Hearts in 1895 and was with Rangers, but not in the cup final team, when they won the cup in 1897 and 1898.

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Post by bobby s » Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:01 pm

That's [yet] another reason to cheer on Dunfermline :D
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Post by Scottish » Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:44 pm

James Oswald was in the St Bernard's side which won in 1895, not Hearts.

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Post by Alan McCabe » Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:49 pm

Pressley will become the first player to triumph with three different clubs if he plays in a winning Celtic side against Dunfermline.
While you mention Oswald, his 1895 victory came with St Bernard and not Hearts.
Mixu Paatelainen was the first player to have played with three different clubs in Scottish Cup Finals (Dundee Utd 1988, Aberdeen 1993 & Hibernian 2001) even if he lost on all occasions. This accolade was additionally claimed by John O'Neil last year when his appearance with beaten finalists Gretna followed earlier losses with Dundee Utd (1991) and Hibernian (2001).
Pressley would additionally join another fairly exclusive club if he played in a winning Celtic side - Scottish Cup Final winner with different clubs in successive seasons. Only Neilly McCallum (Renton 1888 & Celtic 1889) and Neil McCann (Hearts 1998 & Rangers 1999) have previously achieved such a feat.

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Post by ScottishFA » Thu May 03, 2007 11:26 am

Thanks for all the responses, and of course the correction about Oswald being with St Bernards.

As for the last point, if Celtic win then not only Pressley but also Paul Hartley would win it in consecutive seasons with different clubs. Perhaps Paul will manage to finish the game this time!

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Post by Scottish » Thu May 03, 2007 12:20 pm

ScottishFA wrote:Perhaps Paul will manage to finish the game this time!
I wouldn't take a punt on it!

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Post by bobby s » Thu May 03, 2007 3:04 pm

scottish wrote:
ScottishFA wrote:Perhaps Paul will manage to finish the game this time!
I wouldn't take a punt on it!
Lou Macari might though :twisted:
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Post by LEATHERSTOCKING » Thu May 03, 2007 6:58 pm

Alan, While McCallum played in Renton`s 1888 Cup winning side, he only picked up a losers` medal the following season when 3rd LRV beat Celtic 2-1. His Parkhead winners` medal came in 1892.

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Post by LEATHERSTOCKING » Thu May 03, 2007 7:01 pm

As far as I can see, Gordon Strachan is the only Scot to collect Scottish & English Cup winners` medals in successive seasons - Aberdeen 1982, 1982 & 1984 & Manchester Utd. 1985.

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Post by LEATHERSTOCKING » Fri May 04, 2007 4:42 pm

Cuddly Neil Lennon was in Leicester City`s English League Cup winning side of 1999-2000 & was in Celtic`s Scottish equivalent in 2000-01. Joos Valgaeren collected a Dutch cup winners` medal with Roda JC in 2000 & a Scottish one with Celtic in 2001. Anyone any idea what the "JC" stands for? Trevor Stevens won a Scottish League medal with Rangers in 1990-91, a French one with Marsailles the following year & another Scottish one back @ Ibrox the season after that. Alexei Mikailitchenko picked up a Serie A medal with Sampdoria in 1990-91 & a Premier League one @ Ibrox the following season.

Am I right in believing that 10 appearances gets you a championship winners` medal in Scotland & has that always been the case?

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Post by Scottish » Sun May 06, 2007 11:00 am

I think there used to be a set figure of medals per season and also a minimum number of appearances per player. Whether the present arrangements have always been there I would doubt very much.

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Post by Burnie_man » Sat May 12, 2007 10:55 am

LEATHERSTOCKING wrote:Joos Valgaeren collected a Dutch cup winners` medal with Roda JC in 2000 & a Scottish one with Celtic in 2001. Anyone any idea what the "JC" stands for?
"Sport Vereniging Roda Juliana Combinatie Kerkrade" to give them their full Sunday name.

Roda JC came into being by the merger of several football clubs from Kerkrade. In 1954, SV Kerkrade (of 1926) and SV Bleijerheide (of 1914) merged to form Roda Sport. That same year, Rapid '54 (of 1954) and amateur club Juliana (of 1910) merged to form Rapid JC, which would go on to win the Dutch league in 1956. On June 27, 1962, Rapid JC and Roda Sport merged to form Roda JC.

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Post by LEATHERSTOCKING » Sat May 12, 2007 1:10 pm

Thanks for that Burnie-Man. If anyone ever wants to know what all the initials in German club names stand for, give me a call. Why, oh why does the British press insist on calling the Milan club "AC Milan"? I`m assured this is the given nomenclature insisted on by various newspapers` sports editors. We don`t refer to "Queen`s Park FC" or "FC Queen`s Park Strollers" Spaniards always refer to the major capital club simply as "Madrid". There`s a sweet article in one of the SFA`s 19thC annuals looking into the future when the major club in Scotland was The Royal Hampden FC. Sigh.

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