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Derby v Scottish clubs

Post by derby1884 » Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:37 pm

Hi,

does anyone have scores/scorers/attendances for any of these friendly matches Derby have played over the years?

47/8 Edinburgh Select XI v Derby
49/0 Kilmarnock v Derby
53/4 Derby v Partick Thistle
53/4 Derby v East Fife
53/4 Derby v Stirling Albion
57/8 Derby v Kimarnock
59/0 Dundee Utd v Derby
66/7 Derby v Hearts
68/9 St.Johnstone v Derby
68/9 Derby v St.Johnstone

Thanks in advance for any help - very difficult to find any info on these games.

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Re: Derby v Scottish clubs

Post by John Meffen » Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:52 pm

Without knowing the dates it will take a lot of digging, try the London Hearts website, I would start here

http://londonhearts.com/scores/images/1 ... 050801.htm

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Re: Derby v Scottish clubs

Post by Scottish » Tue Aug 27, 2013 10:30 pm

Hi there and welcome to the forum.

The 1949-50 Killie v Derby game was part of the deal which saw Hugh McLaren transferred to the Rams. I don't have the date or scorers but Derby won 5-1 and there was a crowd of 17,900.

St Johnstone v Derby was Aug 1st at Muirton, Aug 5th at the Baseball Ground. St Johnstone won the first game 1-0 (Scorer: McPhee) before a crowd 3,900. Derby won the second game 2-1. McDonald scored for Saints. Crowd was 9,542.

Derby v Stirling Albion was March 13th 1954 with Derby winning 3-1. No further details.

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Post by derby1884 » Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:13 pm

Thanks so much to you both for your replies.

I’m writing an article on Derby v Scottish clubs just now for our Rams memorabilia magazine – though I’ve got all the programmes, actually
building on that with match details is proving more difficult than I had anticipated!

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Re: Derby v Scottish clubs

Post by Scottish » Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:14 am

One idea might be to look for dates in the second half of the season reserved for cup ties when both clubs had already been knocked out of their respective domestic cups. Clubs often arranged friendlies on such 'free' Saturdays.

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Post by the hibLOG » Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:11 am

2.8.47 Edinburgh Select 4-5 Derby County, at Easter Road
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Re: Derby v Scottish clubs

Post by sureitsza » Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:55 am

2 December 1953
Derby County 3-1 Partick Thistle
Howitt, Wright (2) --- Dunn
10,184

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Re: Derby v Scottish clubs

Post by Scottish » Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:20 am

Easter Road, Aug 2nd 1947

Edinburgh 4 Derby 5 HT 3-1

Edinburgh Select – He=Hearts, Hi= Hibs

Brown He, Govan Hi, McKenzie He, Kean Hi, Aird Hi, Laing He, Smith, Johnston, Linwood, Turnbull, Ormond – all Hi

Derby Downie (Kilmarnock), Mozley, Howe, Ward, Leuty, Musson, Broom, Carter, Sta,ps, Steel, McCormick

Referee: W Webb, Glasgow

Goals
Edinburgh Linwood 3, Ormond 36, 44, Laing 63
Derby Steel 12, Broom 55, Stamps 57, Carter 62, McKenzie OG 67

London Hearts has a match report from the following Monday's Derby Evening Telegraph

http://www.londonhearts.com/scores/imag ... 080207.htm

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Re: Derby v Scottish clubs

Post by John Meffen » Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:30 am

There is nothing listed on the old East Fife Historian website, I checked the seasons before and after, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen.

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Re: Derby v Scottish clubs

Post by Scottish » Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:31 am

Going back to the Stirling Albion game, a club history gives the date as 13/3/54 but the same history has a league match against Dundee the same day for which a match report is available. The Derby date must be wrong or it was a reserve side.

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Re: Derby v Scottish clubs

Post by John Meffen » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:00 am

scottish wrote:The Derby date must be wrong or it was a reserve side.
Date is wrong, it was a midweek floodlit game, don't know the exact date.

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Re: Derby v Scottish clubs

Post by jeroen » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:55 am

John Meffen wrote:
scottish wrote:The Derby date must be wrong or it was a reserve side.
Date is wrong, it was a midweek floodlit game, don't know the exact date.
Played 10 March 1954 Derby won 3-1

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Re: Derby v Scottish clubs

Post by John Meffen » Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:50 pm

jeroen wrote:
John Meffen wrote:
scottish wrote:The Derby date must be wrong or it was a reserve side.
Date is wrong, it was a midweek floodlit game, don't know the exact date.
Played 10 March 1954 Derby won 3-1
looks like Attendance was 5029 here

Ignore the Gateshead - Falkirk result :cry:

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Re: Derby v Scottish clubs

Post by ScottishFA » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:23 pm

8 May 1967
Derby 1 (Thomas) Hearts 1 (Townsend). HT 0-0
Att 5000

http://londonhearts.com/scores/games/196705081.html

and

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=G ... page&hl=en (page 6)

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Re: Derby v Scottish clubs

Post by Craig » Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:17 pm

24th March 1954

Derby County (0) 1 Straw 88.
East Fife (3) 3 Bonthrone 17,25, Stewart 18. Att: 5,527
East Fife: Curran, Emery, S.Stewart, Christie (Liddell 4 mins), Finlay, McLennan, J.Stewart, Fleming, Gardiner, Bonthrone, Matthew.

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