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League Cup Shoot Outs

Post by Sat31March1928 » Thu Sep 26, 2013 12:03 am

League Cup Shoot Outs

Hearts have taken part in the most.

Old Firm have lost more than they have won.

Heart Of Midlothian Shoot Outs:13 Won 10 76.92%

Dundee United Shoot Outs:10 Won 4 40.00%

Dundee Shoot Outs:9 Won 5 55.56%
Celtic Shoot Outs:9 Won 3 33.33%
East Fife Shoot Outs:9 Won 6 66.67%

Partick Thistle Shoot Outs:8 Won 2 25.00%
Falkirk Shoot Outs:8 Won 4 50.00%

Airdrieonians Shoot Outs:7 Won 2 28.57%
Motherwell Shoot Outs:7 Won 3 42.86%
Raith Rovers Shoot Outs:7 Won 4 57.14%
Kilmarnock Shoot Outs:7 Won 4 57.14%
Aberdeen Shoot Outs:7 Won 3 42.86%

Alloa Athletic Shoot Outs:6 Won 1 16.67%
Dunfermline Athletic Shoot Outs:6 Won 3 50.00%
Inverness Caledonian Thistle Shoot Outs:6 Won 2 33.33%
Albion Rovers Shoot Outs:6 Won 4 66.67%
Hibernian Shoot Outs:6 Won 4 66.67%

Rangers Shoot Outs:5 Won 2 40.00%
Queens Park Shoot Outs:5 Won 3 60.00%
Brechin City Shoot Outs:5 Won 4 80.00%
Ayr United Shoot Outs:5 Won 3 60.00%
Cowdenbeath Shoot Outs:5 Won 2 40.00%
Dumbarton Shoot Outs:5 Won 3 60.00%
St Mirren Shoot Outs:5 Won 2 40.00%
Stenhousemuir Shoot Outs:5 Won 1 20.00%
Stirling Albion Shoot Outs:5 Won 2 40.00%

Hamilton Academical Shoot Outs:4 Won 1 25.00%
Berwick Rangers Shoot Outs:4 Won 2 50.00%
Stranraer Shoot Outs:4 Won 3 75.00%
Morton Shoot Outs:4 Won 3 75.00%

Airdrie United Shoot Outs:3 Won 1 33.33%
Arbroath Shoot Outs:3 Won 3 100.00%
Clyde Shoot Outs:3 Won 3 100.00%
Ross County Shoot Outs:3 Won 2 66.67%
East Stirlingshire Shoot Outs:3 Won 2 66.67%
Forfar Athletic Shoot Outs:3 Won 2 66.67%

Livingston Shoot Outs:2 Won 0 00.00%
Queen of the South Shoot Outs:2 Won 1 50.00%
Peterhead Shoot Outs:2 Won 1 50.00%
Montrose Shoot Outs:2 Won 0 00.00%
Clydebank Shoot Outs:2 Won 1 50.00%

Annan Athletic Shoot Outs:1 Won 0 00.00%
Meadowbank Thistle Shoot Outs:1 Won 0 00.00%
Caledonian Thistle Shoot Outs:1 Won 0 00.00%
St Johnstone Shoot Outs:1 Won 1 100.00%
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Re: League Cup Shoot Outs

Post by Scottish » Thu Sep 26, 2013 12:48 am

Not gone through them all but are you sure about East Fife? I have them as having played ten, winning three and losing seven. They lost seven in a row from 1986-87 to 1992-93 inclusive, won two in succession in 1999-2000 and won again in 2011-12.

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Re: League Cup Shoot Outs

Post by Scottish » Thu Sep 26, 2013 12:53 am

Definitely something up with the 'system.' Killie have indeed played seven but won only two and lost five. I make Hearts W8 L5 with four of those wins coming in their last four ties.

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Re: League Cup Shoot Outs

Post by Sat31March1928 » Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:20 am

Ignore it it's all bollocks. Was doing it manually without access to my database.

Will fix later!
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Re: League Cup Shoot Outs

Post by bobby s » Mon Sep 30, 2013 11:59 am

Hibs have won every domestic cup shoot out they have been involved in.
It's the Hope I can't stand

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Re: League Cup Shoot Outs

Post by Scottish » Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:39 pm

This is my list, up to and including the third round 2013-14. If there are any errors please list them below. I’ve included all sides to have taken part in the League Cup. Penalties were introduced in 1977-78 and became automatic after 120 minutes in 1984-85.

Aberdeen P7 W2 L5
Airdrie/Airdrie United P10 W5 L5
Albion Rovers P6 W3 L3
Alloa Athletic P6 W3 L3
Annan Athletic P1 W0 L1
Arbroath P3 W2 L1
Ayr United P5 W3 L2
Berwick Rangers P3 W1 L2
Brechin City P5 W1 L4
Celtic P9 W5 L4
Clyde P3 W1 L2
Clydebank P2 W0 L2
Cowdenbeath P5 W0 L5
Dumbarton P5 W3 L2
Dundee P9 W7 L2
Dundee United P10 W4 L6
Dunfermline P6 W4 L2
East Fife P10 W3 L7
East Stirlingshire P3 W3 L0
Elgin City None
Falkirk P8 W5 L3
Forfar P3 W2 L1
Gretna None
Hamilton P4 W2 L2
Hearts P14 W8 L6
Hibernian P6 W6 L0
Inverness CT P7 W4 L3
Kilmarnock P7 W2 L5
Leith Athletic None
Livingston/Meadowbank Thistle P3 W1 L2
Montrose P2 W1 L1
Morton P4 W3 L1
Motherwell P7 W3 L4
Partick Thistle P10 W4 L6
Peterhead P2 W0 L2
Queen of the South P2 W1 L1
Queen’s Park P6 W3 L3
Raith Rovers P7 W4 L3
Rangers P5 W4 L1
Ross County P3 W2 L1
St Johnstone P3 W1 L2
St Mirren P5 W2 L3
Stenhousemuir P5 W1 L4
Stirling Albion P5 W2 L3
Stranraer P4 W3 L1
Third Lanark None

Scottish Cup since introduction of penalties in 1989-90 and up to end of 1st round 2013-14. Only clubs which have taken part since then included. A much lower number of penalties than in the League Cup on account of replays being available up to and including the quarter-finals and previously semi-finals and final.

Aberdeen P3 W1 L2
Airdrie/Airdrie United P4 W2 L2
Albion Rovers P1 W1 L0
Alloa Athletic P1 W0 L1
Annan Athletic None
Arbroath None
Ayr United P1 W1 L0
Berwick Rangers P1 W0 L1
Brechin City P1 W0 L1
Celtic P1 W0 L1
Clyde None
Clydebank None
Cowdenbeath None
Dumbarton None
Dundee P2 W0 L2
Dundee United P1 W1 L0
Dunfermline P1 W1 L0
East Fife P6 W4 L2
East Stirlingshire P1 W0 L1
Elgin City None
Falkirk None
Forfar P3 W1 L2
Gretna P1 W0 L1
Hamilton P1 W1 L0
Hearts P2 W1 L1
Hibernian P1 W1 L0
Inverness CT P3 W2 L1
Kilmarnock P2 W0 L2
Livingston/Meadowbank Thistle P4 W2 L2
Montrose None
Morton P2 W1 L1
Motherwell P1 W1 L0
Partick Thistle P2 W2 L0
Peterhead None
Queen of the South P1 W1 L0
Queen’s Park P1 W0 L1
Raith Rovers None
Rangers P1 W1 L0
Ross County P2 W0 L2
St Johnstone P2 W1 L1
St Mirren None
Stenhousemuir None
Stirling Albion None
Stranraer P2 W1 L1

Non-League (only those clubs which have taken part in penalty shoot-outs)
Buckie Thistle P1 W1 L0
Coldstream P1 W0 L1
Edinburgh City P1 W1 L0
Forres Mechanics P2 W1 L1
Inverness Caledonian P1 W1 L0
Keith P1 W0 L1
Selkirk P1 W1 L0

Total League Cup & Scottish Cup – existing league clubs only
Aberdeen P10 W3 L7
Airdrie/Airdrie United P14 W7 L7
Albion Rovers P7 W4 L3
Alloa Athletic P8 W4 L4
Annan Athletic P1 W0 L1
Arbroath P3 W2 L1
Ayr United P6 W4 L2
Berwick Rangers P4 W1 L3
Brechin City P6 W1 L5
Celtic P11 W6 L5
Clyde P3 W1 L2
Cowdenbeath P5 W0 L5
Dumbarton P5 W3 L2
Dundee P911W7 L4
Dundee United P11 W5 L6
Dunfermline P7 W5 L2
East Fife P16 W7 L9
East Stirlingshire P5 W4 L1
Elgin City None
Falkirk P8 W5 L3
Forfar P6 W3 L3
Hamilton P5 W3 L2
Hearts P16 W9 L7
Hibernian P7 W7 L0
Inverness CT P10 W6 L4
Kilmarnock P9 W2 L7
Livingston/Meadowbank Thistle P7 W3 L4
Montrose P2 W1 L1
Morton P6 W4 L2
Motherwell P8 W4 L4
Partick Thistle P12 W6 L6
Peterhead P2 W0 L2
Queen of the South P3 W2 L1
Queen’s Park P7 W3 L4
Raith Rovers P7 W4 L3
Rangers P6 W5 L1
Ross County P5 W4 L1
St Johnstone P5 W2 L3
St Mirren P5 W2 L3
Stenhousemuir P5 W1 L4
Stirling Albion P5 W2 L3
Stranraer P6 W4 L2

In Europe. Penalties introduced in 1970-71.
Aberdeen P2 W0 L2
Celtic P3 W1 L2
Hibernian P1 W0 L1
St Johnstone P1 W0 L1
Rangers P4 W3 L1

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Re: League Cup Shoot Outs

Post by Scottish » Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:43 pm

And the Texaco/Anglo-Scottish Cup

Airdrie P1 W1 L0
Dundee United P1 W0 L1
Motherwell P1 W1 L0
Partick Thistle P1 W0 L1
St Mirren P1 W0 L1

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Re: League Cup Shoot Outs

Post by ScottishFA » Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:46 am

I know this might be pushing it a bit, but are home teams or away teams more likely to win a shoot-out?

I've seen home players buckle under the pressure of expectation in front of their own fans, but not sure if that is just my perception rather than reality.

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Re: League Cup Shoot Outs

Post by Scottish » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:05 am

I don't know if there's a statistically significant difference or not. I haven't looked at it in terms of home and away. I'd guess it was more likely pre-segregation when fans could rush round to the end where the kicks were being taken. But that was only for a few years and now would only happen in a European tie with fewer away fans or a cup final involving the OF against A.N.Other in which OF fans would be behind both goals, thus giving them the advantage/piling on the pressure, depending on how you look at it.

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Re: League Cup Shoot Outs

Post by StAndrewsHMFC » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:22 pm

I think Hearts have only been in 13 with a win loss record of 8-5.

In the home away question Hearts at home-5 wins (Dundee Utd, Cowdenbeath, Stenhousemuir, Ross Cnty, QOTS), 2 losses(Celtic, Airdrie Utd)
Hearts away-2 wins (Dundee Utd, Raith), 3 losses (Dundee, Ross Cnty, Ayr Utd)
with at neutral (ICT), so the home record is much better than the away.

I've heard you're less likely to win if its in front of your own supporters end, for the ones I can recall that seems to hold true-
in front of the hearts end- 2 wins (Stenhousemuir, Ross Cnty), 3 losses (Dundee, Airdrie Utd, Celtic)
in front of opposing fans 4 wins (Dundee Utd, ICT, Raith, QOTS), no losses
Dundee U (home), Cowdenbeath and Celtic were before my time and I didn't bother going up to Dingwall to seee us lose to Ross Cnty

I read (world soccer) that you're more likely to win if you take the first penalty (I forget the exact stat) but that holds true for the ones I remember well enough- in our last 5 league cup shoot-outs the team taking 1st won 3, lost 2, I can add the scottish cup final and the Harry Swan trophy (the glory!) to the winners taking the first pen to make it 5-2. (Thats purely from memory though)

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Re: League Cup Shoot Outs

Post by Scottish » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:58 pm

StAndrewsHMFC wrote:I think Hearts have only been in 13 with a win loss record of 8-5.
For the League Cup only, yes, I've doubled checked and you're absolutely right. I must have added an aggregate loss as a penalty shoot-out. Must do these things earlier then 3am in future.

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Re: League Cup Shoot Outs

Post by Skyline Drifter » Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:42 pm

Last week's loss at Tynecastle was only Queen of the South's second ever defeat on penalties in first team competition. The other was against Ayr United in the Challenge Cup in August 2006.

Our overall records competitively is now 7 wins from 9 shoot outs.

Scottish Cup - 1 win from 1 shoot out (v Dundee in Jan 2007)
League Cup - 1 win from 2 shoot outs (Bt Dundee in Aug 1990, our first ever shoot out. Lost to Hearts last week)
Challenge Cup - 4 wins from 5 shoot outs (v Stenhousemuir Oct 90, Stirling Albion Oct 91, Rangers Sept 12, Partick Thistle April 13 & that loss against Ayr).

We're also 4 wins from 5 shoot outs in the pre season Scottish Brewers Cup in Annan over the years. Generally as a club we have a very good penalties record indeed.

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Re: League Cup Shoot Outs

Post by Sat31March1928 » Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:41 pm

I've done a comparison between David's summary and mine

See http://www.londonhearts.com/aamain/LC_PENS.htm

Totals are the same except for

I have an extra Berwick tie and David has an extra Hearts tie

Wins and losses differ. I'll write a query against my DB that works out if the winner plays in the next round to check I have the correct score.

Provisional list of ties by team.

NB the Pen result refers to the team in alphabetic order

e.g. second result is Aberdeen losing 5-3 to Rangers


Wed 03 Sep 1986 Aberdeen 1 Celtic 1 2-4 L
Sun 25 Oct 1987 Rangers 3 Aberdeen 3 3-5 L
Tue 12 Oct 1999 Aberdeen 1 Falkirk 1 5-3 W
Tue 22 Aug 2006 Queens Park 0 Aberdeen 0 3-5 L
Tue 20 Sep 2011 Aberdeen 3 East Fife 3 3-4 L
Tue 30 Oct 2012 Aberdeen 2 St Mirren 2 2-4 L
Tue 27 Aug 2013 Aberdeen 0 Alloa Athletic 0 6-5 W


Tue 03 Sep 1991 Airdrieonians 0 Celtic 0 4-2 W
Tue 24 Sep 1991 Dunfermline Athletic 1 Airdrieonians 1 3-2 W
Tue 16 Aug 1994 Morton 1 Airdrieonians 1 3-5 L
Tue 25 Oct 1994 Raith Rovers 1 Airdrieonians 1 5-4 W
Wed 20 Sep 1995 Airdrieonians 1 Partick Thistle 1 3-2 W
Tue 17 Aug 1999 East Fife 2 Airdrieonians 2 4-5 L
Tue 05 Sep 2000 Dundee United 0 Airdrieonians 0 3-4 L
Tue 24 Sep 2002 Kilmarnock 0 Airdrie United 0 4-3 W
Wed 27 Aug 2008 Heart Of Midlothian 0 Airdrie United 0 4-3 W
Sat 01 Aug 2009 Airdrie United 0 Alloa Athletic 0 3-4 L

Wed 20 Aug 1986 Albion Rovers 2 Forfar Athletic 2 5-3 W
Wed 19 Aug 1987 Albion Rovers 1 East Fife 1 5-3 W
Wed 10 Aug 1988 Cowdenbeath 0 Albion Rovers 0 4-3 W
Sat 01 Aug 1998 Stranraer 1 Albion Rovers 1 3-4 L
Tue 24 Aug 2004 Albion Rovers 1 Brechin City 1 4-3 W
Tue 05 Aug 2008 Albion Rovers 0 Raith Rovers 0 3-4 L


Wed 22 Aug 1984 Kilmarnock 1 Alloa Athletic 1 2-3 L
Tue 13 Aug 1991 Alloa Athletic 0 Stranraer 0 8-7 W
Wed 10 Aug 1994 Arbroath 1 Alloa Athletic 1 3-2 W
Tue 13 Aug 1996 Motherwell 0 Alloa Athletic 0 4-2 W
Sat 01 Aug 2009 Airdrie United 0 Alloa Athletic 0 4-3 W
Tue 27 Aug 2013 Aberdeen 0 Alloa Athletic 0 5-6 L


Tue 05 Aug 2008 Dumbarton 1 Annan Athletic 1 4-5 L


Wed 10 Aug 1994 Arbroath 1 Alloa Athletic 1 2-3 L
Wed 27 Aug 2008 Arbroath 2 Inverness Caledonian Thistle 2 2-4 L
Sat 04 Aug 2012 Arbroath 1 Stirling Albion 1 3-2 W


Sat 03 Sep 1977 Queens Park 1 Ayr United 0 4-2 W
Wed 09 Aug 2000 Dumbarton 0 Ayr United 0 4-5 L
Tue 09 Oct 2001 Ayr United 0 Kilmarnock 0 5-4 W
Tue 22 Aug 2006 Ayr United 0 Dunfermline Athletic 0 6-7 L
Wed 21 Sep 2011 Ayr United 1 Heart Of Midlothian 1 4-1 W


Wed 15 Aug 1984 East Stirlingshire 1 Berwick Rangers 1 3-4 L
Tue 09 Aug 1994 Berwick Rangers 0 Montrose 0 5-4 W
Sat 05 Aug 1995 Berwick Rangers 1 Caledonian Thistle 1 5-3 W
Sat 01 Aug 1998 Clyde 1 Berwick Rangers 1 4-3 W


Tue 20 Aug 1991 Brechin City 3 St Mirren 3 4-5 L
Sat 01 Aug 1998 Brechin City 2 Hamilton Academical 2 2-3 L
Tue 24 Aug 2004 Albion Rovers 1 Brechin City 1 3-4 L
Tue 09 Aug 2005 Brechin City 0 Partick Thistle 0 1-3 L
Tue 24 Aug 2010 Brechin City 2 Dundee 2 3-1 W


Wed 04 Sep 1985 Hibernian 4 Celtic 4 3-4 L
Wed 03 Sep 1986 Aberdeen 1 Celtic 1 4-2 W
Tue 23 Sep 1986 Motherwell 2 Celtic 2 4-5 L
Wed 30 Aug 1989 Heart Of Midlothian 2 Celtic 2 3-1 W
Tue 03 Sep 1991 Airdrieonians 0 Celtic 0 2-4 L
Sun 27 Nov 1994 Raith Rovers 2 Celtic 2 5-6 L
Wed 06 Nov 2002 Celtic 1 Partick Thistle 1 5-4 W
Tue 07 Nov 2006 Celtic 1 Falkirk 1 4-5 L
Wed 28 Jan 2009 Celtic 0 Dundee United 0 11-10 W

Sat 01 Aug 1998 Clyde 1 Berwick Rangers 1 3-4 L
Tue 17 Aug 1999 Clyde 2 Hibernian 2 4-5 L
Tue 11 Sep 2001 Clyde 1 Stenhousemuir 1 4-2 W

Tue 22 Aug 1989 Hibernian 0 Clydebank[4] 0 3-5 L
Sat 19 Aug 1995 Clydebank[4] 1 Motherwell 1 1-4 L


Wed 08 Sep 1982 Cowdenbeath 1 Kilmarnock 0 3-4 L
Sat 27 Aug 1983 Heart Of Midlothian 1 Cowdenbeath 1 2-4 L
Wed 10 Aug 1988 Cowdenbeath 0 Albion Rovers 0 3-4 L
Wed 10 Aug 1994 Stranraer 2 Cowdenbeath 2 2-4 L
Sat 30 Jul 2011 Cowdenbeath 2 Stenhousemuir 2 3-4 L


Wed 21 Aug 1985 Stirling Albion 1 Dumbarton 1 2-4 L
Tue 14 Aug 1990 East Stirlingshire 2 Dumbarton 2 1-4 L
Sat 02 Aug 1997 Dumbarton 1 Queens Park 1 6-5 W
Wed 09 Aug 2000 Dumbarton 0 Ayr United 0 5-4 W
Tue 05 Aug 2008 Dumbarton 1 Annan Athletic 1 5-4 W


Wed 24 Sep 1980 Kilmarnock 0 Dundee 0 5-3 W
Wed 29 Aug 1984 Dundee 1 Kilmarnock 1 3-2 W
Tue 21 Aug 1990 Queen of the South 2 Dundee 2 1-4 L
Tue 10 Aug 1993 Meadowbank Thistle 1 Dundee 1 3-1 W
Wed 20 Sep 1995 Dundee 4 Heart Of Midlothian 4 5-4 W
Tue 03 Sep 1996 Dundee United 2 Dundee 2 4-2 W
Tue 28 Aug 2007 Dundee 2 Livingston 2 5-4 W
Tue 24 Aug 2010 Brechin City 2 Dundee 2 1-3 L
Tue 31 Jul 2012 Peterhead 0 Dundee 0 4-1 W


Wed 16 Nov 1977 Heart Of Midlothian 2 Dundee United 0 2-4 L
Tue 31 Aug 1993 Dundee United 3 Falkirk 3 4-2 W
Wed 31 Aug 1994 Hamilton Academical 2 Dundee United 2 3-5 L
Tue 03 Sep 1996 Dundee United 2 Dundee 2 2-4 L
Sat 08 Aug 1998 Dundee United 2 Stirling Albion 2 3-0 W
Tue 05 Sep 2000 Dundee United 0 Airdrieonians 0 4-3 W
Sun 16 Mar 2008 Rangers 2 Dundee United 2 2-3 L
Wed 28 Jan 2009 Celtic 0 Dundee United 0 10-11 L
Tue 25 Oct 2011 Dundee United 2 Falkirk 2 4-5 L
Wed 31 Oct 2012 Dundee United 1 Heart Of Midlothian 1 4-5 L


Wed 21 Aug 1985 Morton 2 Dunfermline Athletic 2 3-4 L
Wed 17 Aug 1988 East Fife 1 Dunfermline Athletic 1 4-3 W
Wed 28 Aug 1991 Dunfermline Athletic 1 St Mirren 1 3-2 W
Tue 24 Sep 1991 Dunfermline Athletic 1 Airdrieonians 1 2-3 L
Tue 09 Oct 2001 Dunfermline Athletic 1 Inverness Caledonian Thistle 1 4-1 W
Tue 22 Aug 2006 Ayr United 0 Dunfermline Athletic 0 7-6 W

Wed 27 Aug 1986 East Fife 0 Rangers 0 4-5 L
Wed 19 Aug 1987 Albion Rovers 1 East Fife 1 3-5 L
Wed 17 Aug 1988 East Fife 1 Dunfermline Athletic 1 3-4 L
Wed 09 Aug 1989 East Fife 2 Queens Park 2 6-7 L
Tue 14 Aug 1990 Queens Park 3 East Fife 3 4-5 L
Tue 13 Aug 1991 East Fife 2 East Stirlingshire 2 2-4 L
Sat 01 Aug 1992 Stranraer 0 East Fife 0 4-5 L
Sat 31 Jul 1999 East Fife 2 Stirling Albion 2 8-7 W
Tue 17 Aug 1999 East Fife 2 Airdrieonians 2 5-4 W
Tue 20 Sep 2011 Aberdeen 3 East Fife 3 4-3 W


Wed 15 Aug 1984 East Stirlingshire 1 Berwick Rangers 1 4-3 W
Tue 14 Aug 1990 East Stirlingshire 2 Dumbarton 2 4-1 W
Tue 13 Aug 1991 East Fife 2 East Stirlingshire 2 4-2 W


Sat 02 Sep 1978 Falkirk 2 Partick Thistle 2 5-4 W
Wed 17 Aug 1988 Falkirk 1 Raith Rovers 1 9-8 W
Wed 22 Aug 1990 Falkirk 1 Partick Thistle 1 1-4 L
Tue 31 Aug 1993 Dundee United 3 Falkirk 3 2-4 L
Tue 16 Aug 1994 Falkirk 1 Montrose 1 5-4 W
Tue 12 Oct 1999 Aberdeen 1 Falkirk 1 3-5 L
Tue 07 Nov 2006 Celtic 1 Falkirk 1 5-4 W
Tue 25 Oct 2011 Dundee United 2 Falkirk 2 5-4 W


Tue 27 Aug 1985 Forfar Athletic 2 Rangers 2 5-6 L
Wed 20 Aug 1986 Albion Rovers 2 Forfar Athletic 2 3-5 L
Tue 23 Sep 2003 Forfar Athletic 3 Motherwell 3 4-2 W


Wed 10 Oct 1979 St Mirren 0 Hamilton Academical 2 4-2 W
Wed 31 Aug 1994 Hamilton Academical 2 Dundee United 2 5-3 W
Tue 13 Aug 1996 Morton 1 Hamilton Academical 1 3-4 L
Sat 01 Aug 1998 Brechin City 2 Hamilton Academical 2 3-2 W


Wed 16 Nov 1977 Heart Of Midlothian 2 Dundee United 0 4-2 W
Sat 27 Aug 1983 Heart Of Midlothian 1 Cowdenbeath 1 4-2 W
Wed 30 Aug 1989 Heart Of Midlothian 2 Celtic 2 1-3 L
Wed 20 Sep 1995 Dundee 4 Heart Of Midlothian 4 4-5 L
Wed 14 Aug 1996 Heart Of Midlothian 1 Stenhousemuir 1 5-4 W
Wed 09 Sep 1998 Heart Of Midlothian 1 Ross County 1 3-0 W
Tue 25 Sep 2001 Ross County 0 Heart Of Midlothian 0 4-5 L
Wed 27 Aug 2008 Heart Of Midlothian 0 Airdrie United 0 3-4 L
Wed 21 Sep 2011 Ayr United 1 Heart Of Midlothian 1 1-4 L
Wed 31 Oct 2012 Dundee United 1 Heart Of Midlothian 1 5-4 W
Sat 26 Jan 2013 Inverness Caledonian Thistle 1 Heart Of Midlothian 1 5-4 W
Tue 27 Aug 2013 Raith Rovers 1 Heart Of Midlothian 1 5-4 W
Wed 25 Sep 2013 Heart Of Midlothian 3 Queen of the South 3 4-2 W

Wed 04 Sep 1985 Hibernian 4 Celtic 4 4-3 W
Tue 22 Aug 1989 Hibernian 0 Clydebank[4] 0 5-3 W
Tue 31 Aug 1993 Partick Thistle 2 Hibernian 2 3-2 W
Tue 17 Aug 1999 Clyde 2 Hibernian 2 5-4 W
Thu 05 Feb 2004 Hibernian 1 Rangers 1 4-3 W
Tue 20 Sep 2011 Motherwell 2 Hibernian 2 7-6 W

Sat 05 Aug 1995 Berwick Rangers 1 Caledonian Thistle 1 3-5 L
Sat 09 Aug 1997 Motherwell 2 Inverness Caledonian Thistle 2 1-4 L
Wed 26 Sep 2001 Inverness Caledonian Thistle 3 Partick Thistle 3 4-2 W
Tue 09 Oct 2001 Dunfermline Athletic 1 Inverness Caledonian Thistle 1 1-4 L
Wed 27 Aug 2008 Arbroath 2 Inverness Caledonian Thistle 2 4-2 W
Tue 25 Sep 2012 Stenhousemuir 1 Inverness Caledonian Thistle 1 6-5 W
Sat 26 Jan 2013 Inverness Caledonian Thistle 1 Heart Of Midlothian 1 4-5 L


Sat 24 Nov 1979 Kilmarnock 3 Morton 2 4-5 L
Wed 24 Sep 1980 Kilmarnock 0 Dundee 0 3-5 L
Wed 08 Sep 1982 Cowdenbeath 1 Kilmarnock 0 4-3 W
Wed 22 Aug 1984 Kilmarnock 1 Alloa Athletic 1 3-2 W
Wed 29 Aug 1984 Dundee 1 Kilmarnock 1 2-3 L
Tue 09 Oct 2001 Ayr United 0 Kilmarnock 0 4-5 L
Tue 24 Sep 2002 Kilmarnock 0 Airdrie United 0 3-4 L


Tue 10 Aug 1993 Meadowbank Thistle 1 Dundee 1 1-3 L
Sat 19 Aug 1995 St Johnstone 1 Livingston 1 4-2 W
Tue 28 Aug 2007 Dundee 2 Livingston 2 4-5 L


Tue 09 Aug 1994 Berwick Rangers 0 Montrose 0 4-5 L
Tue 16 Aug 1994 Falkirk 1 Montrose 1 4-5 L


Sat 24 Nov 1979 Kilmarnock 3 Morton 2 5-4 W
Wed 21 Aug 1985 Morton 2 Dunfermline Athletic 2 4-3 W
Tue 16 Aug 1994 Morton 1 Airdrieonians 1 5-3 W
Tue 13 Aug 1996 Morton 1 Hamilton Academical 1 4-3 W


Tue 23 Sep 1986 Motherwell 2 Celtic 2 5-4 W
Sat 19 Aug 1995 Clydebank[4] 1 Motherwell 1 4-1 W
Tue 13 Aug 1996 Motherwell 0 Alloa Athletic 0 2-4 L
Sat 09 Aug 1997 Motherwell 2 Inverness Caledonian Thistle 2 4-1 W
Wed 18 Aug 1999 Raith Rovers 2 Motherwell 2 5-4 W
Tue 23 Sep 2003 Forfar Athletic 3 Motherwell 3 2-4 L
Tue 20 Sep 2011 Motherwell 2 Hibernian 2 6-7 L


Sat 02 Sep 1978 Falkirk 2 Partick Thistle 2 4-5 L
Wed 22 Aug 1990 Falkirk 1 Partick Thistle 1 4-1 W
Wed 19 Aug 1992 St Johnstone 2 Partick Thistle 2 3-4 L
Tue 31 Aug 1993 Partick Thistle 2 Hibernian 2 2-3 L
Wed 20 Sep 1995 Airdrieonians 1 Partick Thistle 1 2-3 L
Wed 26 Sep 2001 Inverness Caledonian Thistle 3 Partick Thistle 3 2-4 L
Wed 06 Nov 2002 Celtic 1 Partick Thistle 1 4-5 L
Wed 24 Sep 2003 Peterhead 2 Partick Thistle 2 4-3 W
Tue 09 Aug 2005 Brechin City 0 Partick Thistle 0 3-1 W
Tue 28 Aug 2007 Partick Thistle 0 St Johnstone 0 5-4 W


Wed 24 Sep 2003 Peterhead 2 Partick Thistle 2 3-4 L
Tue 31 Jul 2012 Peterhead 0 Dundee 0 1-4 L


Tue 21 Aug 1990 Queen of the South 2 Dundee 2 4-1 W
Wed 25 Sep 2013 Heart Of Midlothian 3 Queen of the South 3 2-4 L


Sat 03 Sep 1977 Queens Park 1 Ayr United 0 2-4 L
Sat 02 Sep 1978 Queens Park 4 Raith Rovers 2 3-4 L
Wed 09 Aug 1989 East Fife 2 Queens Park 2 7-6 W
Tue 14 Aug 1990 Queens Park 3 East Fife 3 5-4 W
Sat 02 Aug 1997 Dumbarton 1 Queens Park 1 5-6 L
Tue 22 Aug 2006 Queens Park 0 Aberdeen 0 5-3 W


Sat 02 Sep 1978 Queens Park 4 Raith Rovers 2 4-3 W
Wed 17 Aug 1988 Falkirk 1 Raith Rovers 1 8-9 L
Tue 25 Oct 1994 Raith Rovers 1 Airdrieonians 1 4-5 L
Sun 27 Nov 1994 Raith Rovers 2 Celtic 2 6-5 W
Wed 18 Aug 1999 Raith Rovers 2 Motherwell 2 4-5 L
Tue 05 Aug 2008 Albion Rovers 0 Raith Rovers 0 4-3 W
Tue 27 Aug 2013 Raith Rovers 1 Heart Of Midlothian 1 4-5 L


Tue 27 Aug 1985 Forfar Athletic 2 Rangers 2 6-5 W
Wed 27 Aug 1986 East Fife 0 Rangers 0 5-4 W
Sun 25 Oct 1987 Rangers 3 Aberdeen 3 5-3 W
Thu 05 Feb 2004 Hibernian 1 Rangers 1 3-4 L
Sun 16 Mar 2008 Rangers 2 Dundee United 2 3-2 W


Wed 09 Sep 1998 Heart Of Midlothian 1 Ross County 1 0-3 L
Tue 25 Sep 2001 Ross County 0 Heart Of Midlothian 0 5-4 W
Wed 25 Aug 2010 Ross County 3 St Mirren 3 4-3 W


Wed 19 Aug 1992 St Johnstone 2 Partick Thistle 2 4-3 W
Sat 19 Aug 1995 St Johnstone 1 Livingston 1 2-4 L
Tue 28 Aug 2007 Partick Thistle 0 St Johnstone 0 4-5 L


Wed 10 Oct 1979 St Mirren 0 Hamilton Academical 2 2-4 L
Tue 20 Aug 1991 Brechin City 3 St Mirren 3 5-4 W
Wed 28 Aug 1991 Dunfermline Athletic 1 St Mirren 1 2-3 L
Wed 25 Aug 2010 Ross County 3 St Mirren 3 3-4 L
Tue 30 Oct 2012 Aberdeen 2 St Mirren 2 4-2 W


Wed 14 Aug 1996 Heart Of Midlothian 1 Stenhousemuir 1 4-5 L
Tue 11 Sep 2001 Clyde 1 Stenhousemuir 1 2-4 L
Wed 11 Sep 2002 Stirling Albion 3 Stenhousemuir 3 2-4 L
Sat 30 Jul 2011 Cowdenbeath 2 Stenhousemuir 2 4-3 W
Tue 25 Sep 2012 Stenhousemuir 1 Inverness Caledonian Thistle 1 5-6 L


Wed 21 Aug 1985 Stirling Albion 1 Dumbarton 1 4-2 W
Sat 08 Aug 1998 Dundee United 2 Stirling Albion 2 0-3 L
Sat 31 Jul 1999 East Fife 2 Stirling Albion 2 7-8 L
Wed 11 Sep 2002 Stirling Albion 3 Stenhousemuir 3 4-2 W
Sat 04 Aug 2012 Arbroath 1 Stirling Albion 1 2-3 L


Tue 13 Aug 1991 Alloa Athletic 0 Stranraer 0 7-8 L
Sat 01 Aug 1992 Stranraer 0 East Fife 0 5-4 W
Wed 10 Aug 1994 Stranraer 2 Cowdenbeath 2 4-2 W
Sat 01 Aug 1998 Stranraer 1 Albion Rovers 1 4-3 W
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Re: League Cup Shoot Outs

Post by Scottish » Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:16 pm

Sat31March1928 wrote:I've done a comparison between David's summary and mine

See http://www.londonhearts.com/aamain/LC_PENS.htm

Totals are the same except for

I have an extra Berwick tie and David has an extra Hearts tie
I omitted Berwick v Clyde (though only in Berwick's total and not in Clyde's.) For Hearts see my reply of Oct 1st at 11.58 pm. My error is down to running out of fingers when adding up.
Sat31March1928 wrote:Wins and losses differ. I'll write a query against my DB that works out if the winner plays in the next round to check I have the correct score.
Again, I did this manually. Might well need new beads on the abacus.

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Re: League Cup Shoot Outs

Post by Gorgiewave » Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:17 pm

Post scrubbed, to cut down on "bilgewater" by me.
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