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BNA Update

Post by Alan McCabe » Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:15 pm

Finally we've got a sports newspaper inclusion that should be of invaluable assistance as the ATHLETIC NEWS is starting to appear on the archive.
It is the English version but Page 5 includes 'Scotch Football Notes' while the occasion match report appears on page 6 or 7.
1882 is available so far.

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Re: BNA Update

Post by BMCCOLL » Mon Jan 18, 2016 3:15 pm

I saw this last night, hopefully more will be forthcoming!
http://scottish-football-historical-archive.co.nf

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Re: BNA Update

Post by Partick Thistle » Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:23 am

Anyone wishing to check out the Athletic News can do so for free this weekend c/o Find My Past

http://www.findmypast.co.uk/freeweekend
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Re: BNA Update

Post by Alan Brown » Thu Jan 21, 2016 1:29 pm

Does Find My Past give you access to all newspapers on the BNA? Was thinking it would be worthwhile subscribing if it gives access to both the BNA as well as cencus records etc.

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Post by BMCCOLL » Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:33 pm

I've been a subscriber to FMP for over a year, and it has the full shebang; all the BNA papers,census records, miltary, travel & migration records, BDMs etc. Plus for this weekend also full access to world papers and I assume this includes the Irish press. Well worth the tenner a month.
http://scottish-football-historical-archive.co.nf

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Re: BNA Update

Post by Alan Brown » Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:19 pm

Cheers for the info Brian. Sounds like a better deal than BNA.

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Re: BNA Update

Post by ScottishFA » Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:24 pm

FMP does offer a better deal than a direct sub to the BNA, especially as they offer access to a lot of genealogy records as well. The only downside is that their search programme for the BNA is slightly more fiddly and has a different algorithm, in that you can't search by strings of words (eg "Partick Thistle"). Instead, you have to fool the search programme by using proper names, eg first name Partick, surname Thistle, and even then it comes up with different results to a straight BNA search.

Also, be aware that their prices will go up in mid February, albeit with access to a greater range of records, so if you do decide to sign up, do it soon and take a year's worth. See this for details: http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine. ... 9-register

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Re: BNA Update

Post by BMCCOLL » Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:38 pm

I partly agree with Andy in their search filters. However if you want the result of say Adventurers v Broxburn United, typing this or a variation certainly brings up the required papers. I'll be using this weekend's freebie to look out some stuff on the Irish league and cups.

FOOTNOTE! I'm still beavering away updating the new SFHA site. It's taking slightly longer than anticipated, but I believe the end result will be worth it.
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Re: BNA Update

Post by Partick Thistle » Sun Jan 24, 2016 3:03 pm

I have been asked to state that tomorrow (Thursday) the Partick Thistle will meet at Partick a combined team of Dundee players. Those not otherwise engaged should turn out to see the play.” ~ Athletic News, Wednesday 12th April 1882

This snip caught my eye - it's a clear statement that the Athletic News was actually on sale in Glasgow in the early 1880s.

I always like to try and get a feel for these original sources. I note the paper was only issued every Wednesday in 1882. How relaxed. By the end of the decade, they were in a Monday rush along with the rest of the competition!

I quite like the conversational tone of the writers. John Simkin's excellent Spartacus Educational shares some interesting insight from an Athletic News reporter by the name of James A. Catton, a would-be editor, who began filing match reports in 1886. In his book "The Story of Association Football" (1926) Catton wrote:

When first I attended football matches as a reporter it was necessary to walk about the ground, to keep outside the touchlines, of course, or to stand behind the goal-posts, if the custodian was a genial man and free from nerves and small irritabilities.

I have seen even a modern goalkeeper, who dwells in a nice little sanctum of his own, with the Goalkeepers' Preservation Act to protect him, so worried that he would, when play was far away, pick up tiny stones, little bits of cinder, and little tufts of grass and put them through the meshes of the net-all signs of nervousness.

In the olden times the goalkeeper was generally self-possessed. He had to be, because he was so often bundled head over heels by one forward while another was making a shot.

But up and down the touch-line and round about the goals the reporter had to wander like a restless spirit. He was as much exposed to the weather as the players, but there was rarely any account to do for an evening newspaper.

At last some wooden benches or desks were put up near the middle of the field, and bordering on the touch-line. There was no shelter, and when the day of telegraphing reports arrived the telegraphic forms were often wet through, and sometimes blown away.

Where the first Press box was built I cannot say, but when one secretary was asked for such accommodation his reply was: "Dear me! I suppose you would like nicely glazed windows, an armchair, a foot-warmer, a cigar, and a glass of whisky at intervals." The game was gaining adherents, "gates" were growing, and secretaries were beginning to show what they thought was independence and hauteur. Really it was rudeness. Reporters in those early days often suffered from severe colds and contracted rheumatism. Many a time have I left a match with clothes saturated by rain and with marrow chilled.


Maybe we should cut them some slack for all those missed goal scorers!
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Re: BNA Update

Post by ScottishFA » Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:56 pm

Athletic News 1885 and 1886 now added.

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Re: BNA Update

Post by ScottishFA » Fri Feb 19, 2016 7:39 pm

Keep the weekend clear!

Athletic News now available for 1876, 1880-82, 1884-86 and 1899, with presumably more to come as the gaps are filled in.

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