Matches between the Scottish League and Anglo-Scots ?

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Matches between the Scottish League and Anglo-Scots ?

Post by Carlucci » Sat Jan 21, 2006 8:35 pm

Has the Scottish League ever played against a side containing Scots playing in English teams (Anglo-Scots)? If you confirm this, could you give a list containing full results, venues, dates , line-ups and scorers? Thank you a lot. Warmest Regards.

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Post by Scottish » Sun Jan 22, 2006 12:28 am

I think there may have been some unofficial 'trial' matches on this basis but never anything official.

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Post by Cinneide » Fri Dec 29, 2006 8:54 am

I've come across regular games. Perhaps not an extensive list, but:

Home Scots v Anglo Scots 3/1/1917
Home Scots v Anglo Scots 22/3/1921
Home Scots v Anglo Scots 23/3/1922

The wartime one was played for war funds, while the other two appeared to be organised by the SFA and were used to trial fringe players for the international against England.

From memory there may have been others between 1917 and 1922.
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Post by Sat31March1928 » Fri Dec 29, 2006 9:09 am

It was a 'fairly regular' 'trial match'. I'll check through the SDA and see what I can find.
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Post by Cinneide » Sat Dec 30, 2006 12:26 am

While reading the Daily Record from 1924, today, the International Trial match in March 1924 was between 'A' team and 'B' team. The Record reported that the game "wasn't the usual stunt match", indicating that the Home v Anglo game played in previous years wasn't highly regarded.
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Post by LEATHERSTOCKING » Sat Dec 30, 2006 10:53 am

The international trial games were organised by the SFA and ran virtually unbroken from 1874 to 1928 except for the war years of course (no internationals to "try" for). Sometimes there were as many as four trial games a season, often there were two one hour games on the same early Sping day. Eventually the trial became a Home Scots vs. Anglo Scots game in the 1890s and, although the press constantly derided them, the games were popular with fans and a record high of 32,000 watched the 1921 game @ Cathkin Park. John Litster is currently serialising my history of this fixture in the SCOTTISH FOOTBALL HISTORIAN.

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Post by Scottish » Sat Dec 30, 2006 1:38 pm

Cinneide wrote:While reading the Daily Record from 1924, today
I'd move to a different newsagent if I were you.

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Post by Sat31March1928 » Sat Dec 30, 2006 1:40 pm

LEATHERSTOCKING wrote:The international trial games were organised by the SFA and ran virtually unbroken from 1874 to 1928 except for the war years of course (no internationals to "try" for). Sometimes there were as many as four trial games a season, often there were two one hour games on the same early Sping day. Eventually the trial became a Home Scots vs. Anglo Scots game in the 1890s and, although the press constantly derided them, the games were popular with fans and a record high of 32,000 watched the 1921 game @ Cathkin Park. John Litster is currently serialising my history of this fixture in the SCOTTISH FOOTBALL HISTORIAN.
Have you got a list of the games with dates? I can link them to the SDA pages.
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Post by Cinneide » Sat Dec 30, 2006 8:36 pm

scottish wrote:
Cinneide wrote:While reading the Daily Record from 1924, today
I'd move to a different newsagent if I were you.
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Post by Cinneide » Wed Jan 03, 2007 9:28 pm

From Daily Record 7/3/1925
At last they [the SFA] have broken away from the stereotyped Anglo-Scots v Home-Scots match; instead teams dubbed ‘A’ and ‘B’ will be pitted against each other.
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Post by Burnie_man » Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:53 pm

I took the original query to relate to Scottish League v English League matches where the English League side contained Scots playing for English clubs, in which case I imagine there would be numerous examples?

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Post by Scottish » Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:37 pm

Not that many actually. A few in the very early days I think then no more until the likes of Mackay & Law in the 1960s.

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Post by Sat31March1928 » Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:29 pm

scottish wrote:Not that many actually. A few in the very early days I think then no more until the likes of Mackay & Law in the 1960s.
In the 'Early Days' these games were seen as almost as much an honour as a 'full' cap. Remember there were only 5 chances to get selected.

England
Wales
Ireland

English League
Irish League

They were also used as 'trial matches' for the Full games. A good or bad performance could influnce the selection.

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Post by Sat31March1928 » Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:30 pm

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Post by Cinneide » Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:57 pm

If we're still talking about Home Scots v Anglo Scots international trial matches, in 1928 the Daily Record was advocating the return of the Home v Anglo game, three years after ridiculing it.

A Home v Anglos trial game was played on 13/3/28.
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